[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

To me "Luck" is nothing more than having the inate ability to take advantage of opportunities.

Colour me cynical (ME!!?? CYNICAL??!! Naw!) but I just have very little belief in "Luck."

ahh .... but "Luck" takes many forms my friend

you hit the debris and cut a tire

a caution comes out and you get to pit

your tire changer drops a lugnut and you lose 5 seconds in the pits ... or he cant find the lugnut and you go out anyway .... of course the official sees this and you get a penalty

etc., etc., etc. ...... the list goes on and on ..... i think you get the idea

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by simple simon

ahh .... but "Luck" takes many forms my friend

you hit the debris and cut a tire

a caution comes out and you get to pit

your tire changer drops a lugnut and you lose 5 seconds in the pits ... or he cant find the lugnut and you go out anyway .... of course the official sees this and you get a penalty

etc., etc., etc. ...... the list goes on and on ..... i think you get the idea

I stand on my concept of "luck." Of course, I am the same guy who feels that the words "accident" and "accidental" are mis-used, also. (example: a wreck in a race is no "accident." When you drive in close proximity to one another at extremely high rates of speed in a relatively small enclosure, wrecks aren't "accidental; they're inevitable.)

But, we can agree to disagree.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

"Luck" is nothing more than having the inate ability to take advantage of opportunities.

How profound is that statement?! Bob, you scare me!

I'm going to have that statement printed on a t-shirt!

Man, you're good!











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[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

How profound is that statement?! Bob, you scare me!

I'm going to have that statement printed on a t-shirt!

Man, you're good!

You give me waaaay too much credit.

I'm paraphrasing a quote by 20th Century English novelist, Michael Korda. I think the EXACT quote goes something like this:
"Luck can often mean simple taking advantage of a situation at the right moment."

I'm not smart enough to come up with deep thoughts such as that but I'm one Hell of a plagiarizer!

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Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I stand on my concept of "luck." Of course, I am the same guy who feels that the words "accident" and "accidental" are mis-used, also. (example: a wreck in a race is no "accident." When you drive in close proximity to one another at extremely high rates of speed in a relatively small enclosure, wrecks aren't "accidental; they're inevitable.)
But, we can agree to disagree.

Jeff had one heck of an inevitable on Sunday.

[jks812]

Jeff and Jimmy are both great drivers ( boy that'll leave a bad taste in your mouth saying that), but regardless of that, ole luck is kicking the daylights out of them right now. I bet they wouldn't mind having some of that luck about right now.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

You give me waaaay too much credit.

I'm paraphrasing a quote by 20th Century English novelist, Michael Korda. I think the EXACT quote goes something like this:
"Luck can often mean simple taking advantage of a situation at the right moment."

I'm not smart enough to come up with deep thoughts such as that but I'm one Hell of a plagiarizer!

Either way, I applaud you! I may not always agree with you, but man, you get me thinking!

I'm not easily intrigued ...






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[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Either way, I applaud you! I may not always agree with you, but man, you get me thinking!

Believe it or not, you just paid me one of the nicest compliments I have received here. I find no higher calling in a debater than to be able to encourage a person to think outside of their normal train of thought and see things from a different perspective.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Believe it or not, you just paid me one of the nicest compliments I have received here. I find no higher calling in a debater than to be able to encourage a person to think outside of their normal train of thought and see things from a different perspective.

Well, be comforted that you have accomplished just that with me!

"Debater" ... such a negative word. "Perspective" is the better word.

[Bob Tanner]

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Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Either way, I applaud you! I may not always agree with you, but man, you get me thinking!

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Well, be comforted that you have accomplished just that with me!

"Debater" ... such a negative word. "Perspective" is the better word.

"Negative word?" From the online dictionary:

Debater: noun; someone who engages in debate

[PenelopePitStop]

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Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

"Negative word?" From the online dictionary:

Debater: noun; someone who engages in debate

Now, see? There you go again!

A debater may be at the podium debating something that they have been convinced of as truth by the written word of those who have a slanted, perhaps preconceived and/or preplanned result.

A perspective allows for free thinking.

I know this: I would never want to debate you! I'd surely lose that one!

Back to racing, you intellectual superior!










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[Bob Tanner]

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Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Now, see? There you go again!

A debater may be at the podium debating something that they have been convinced of as truth by the written word of those who have a slanted, perhaps preconceived and/or preplanned result.
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One more statement and I'll let this one go, I swear...

A GOOD debater is someone who doesn't need to be convinced of the "rightness," or "wrongness" of any subject. A good debater can take any subject and debate said subject from either side. The correctness of the subject is immaterial; it's the argument, put forth within predetermined constraints, which rules the game.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

One more statement and I'll let this one go, I swear...

A GOOD debater is someone who doesn't need to be convinced of the "rightness," or "wrongness" of any subject. A good debater can take any subject and debate said subject from either side. The correctness of the subject is immaterial; it's the argument, put forth within predetermined constraints, which rules the game.

exactly .... i wont go as far as to call myself a good debater .... but i can say i feel it is part of my job here to occasionally spark interest in topics ... if we all always agreed there would be no debate and a heck of a boring forum .... sometimes debate must be created

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by simple simon

exactly .... i wont go as far as to call myself a good debater .... but i can say i feel it is part of my job here to occasionally spark interest in topics ... if we all always agreed there would be no debate and a heck of a boring forum .... sometimes debate must be created

Interesting, adult conversation, discussing subjects of mutual interest, with people you respect, and a glass of either J&B or Famous Grouse Scotch; it just don't get no better.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

A good debater can take any subject and debate said subject from either side.

BINGO! I agree! Which sort of proves my point.