[simple simon]

ok i know the season is still very early .... but Kyle Busch is tearing it up out there ......... do you think HMS does/will miss him ?

i think they will regret their choice to let him go ..... if they dont regret it already ...... maybe they should have dumped Casey instead

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by simple simon

ok i know the season is still very early .... but Kyle Busch is tearing it up out there ......... do you think HMS does/will miss him ?

i think they will regret their choice to let him go ..... if they dont regret it already ...... maybe they should have dumped Casey instead

Respectfully, no. The profit HMS has derived from Junior's presence has far outweighted any success Shrub has seen on the track.

If it were about racing I might have answered differently but NA__AR isn't about racing; it's about bottom line.

[Phils20]

I do think that in the long run, strictly based on racing, they will miss him dearly. Long after JJ, Gordon, and Jr are retired, he will be running races and winning.

I'm no fan of his, but he is gonna be one great driver, once his brains catch up to his talent!

But in this sad racing world, being marketable is all that matters. Hendrick will make more money off Jr souvenir sales than they would have made from Kyles success on the track.

I find it sad that racing has become more about Die cast and other sales than about winning.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Respectfully, no. The profit HMS has derived from Junior's presence has far outweighted any success Shrub has seen on the track.

If it were about racing I might have answered differently but NA__AR isn't about racing; it's about bottom line.

did you miss where i suggested they could have kept Shrub and dropped Casey instead ? ...... in that scenario they would still have Jr

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by simple simon

did you miss where i suggested they could have kept Shrub and dropped Casey instead ? ...... in that scenario they would still have Jr

Nope. I saw that but discounted it because Busch the junior had proven to be a minor embarrassment, IRT his immaturity and his mouth. Dropping Mears was never an option. Hendrick knew that Junior could be "managed" (Example: how do you like Junior's new clean-cut, shaven corporate image?) Hendrick had the management skills but lacked the leadership skills to effectively control Kyle. Kyle was history with HMS whether Junior came up on the open market or not.

But I could be very wrong...

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by simple simon

ok i know the season is still very early .... but Kyle Busch is tearing it up out there ......... do you think HMS does/will miss him ?

i think they will regret their choice to let him go ..... if they dont regret it already ...... maybe they should have dumped Casey instead

Gonna take refuge in your - season is still very early - echo Mr. T's response with regards to racing vs. $$$ focus, then go on with observation that -

Of the little "green flag" racing seen last night we observed that the 18 team clearly clicked on preparedness relative to the 88.

The 18 could run anywhere fairly well. The 20 even commented during one delay that they would be conferring with their team mate (The 11 was already history at the time) as he was clearly progressing forward well. Hmmmm - just who has been the JGR top dog so far?

On the other side of the coin, E Jr. had already expressed questions with regards to their set-up, was seen making notable corrections to save the car, and who knows perhaps (this REAL conjecture here) may have been able to avoid Mears if he had more manueverability.

[simple simon]

i will restate .... this thread is about HMS keeping Kyle Busch and dumping Casey Mears ......... it has nothing to do with Jr ..... either way they would have Jr ..... im not sure why Jr keeps being brought up as the focal point

i believe as the season plays out Kyle will be much higher in the standings and prove to be much more marketable

[wingkey1]

OK sorry.

Yes, particularly if in the final measure he does better than ummmm ---- ahhhhh ---

Never mind.

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by simple simon

i believe as the season plays out Kyle will be much higher in the standings and prove to be much more marketable

Higher in the standings? Very possible.

More marketable? Not in a million years. Jr. is far and above the most popular racer in NASCAR, and may even transend the sport itself, whereas Kyle isn't and probably never will be. He just doesn't have that "It" Factor.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by The Dude

Higher in the standings? Very possible.

More marketable? Not in a million years. Jr. is far and above the most popular racer in NASCAR, and may even transend the sport itself, whereas Kyle isn't and probably never will be. He just doesn't have that "It" Factor.

wow .... just plain wow ....... please let me be clear .... THIS THREAD HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH JR

this is 100% Kyle vs Casey ...... Kyle will finish higher in the points and be more marketable then Casey this season ....... therefore i believe HMS should have kept Kyle and dumped Casey ....... that's all im talking about ..... no more no less

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by simple simon

wow .... just plain wow ....... please let me be clear .... THIS THREAD HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH JR

this is 100% Kyle vs Casey ...... Kyle will finish higher in the points and be more marketable then Casey this season ....... therefore i believe HMS should have kept Kyle and dumped Casey ....... that's all im talking about ..... no more no less

Oh crap. So sorry. The whole thread was talking about Jr. and I just assumed that the post was too.

I need to learn how to read better.

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Anyway, Kyle may end up being more marketable, but like a few people have mentioned already, he doesn't fit the Hendrick corperate mold, whereas Mears does.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by The Dude

Oh crap. So sorry. The whole thread was talking about Jr. and I just assumed that the post was too.

I need to learn how to read better.

no problem ....... and i apologize too .... the thread was taken off track and i lost it a little

[SteelPhoenyx]

Last June I was at Infineon on Saturday, had lunch at the Hendrick hospitality tent. They brought in the four drivers for a Q&A. This was right after it was announced that Kyle Busch would be leaving to make room for Junior. Kid still looked like he had the wind knocked out of his sails. Sitting in the room watching him, I gained a little respect for him in that he WAS able to still show some of that inner fire even though his world had just been turned upside down. I kinda like the kid, when he doesn't come down with a case of The Ass (as my husband puts it). Both the Busch boys are great drivers, they just tend to come down with The Ass more than most people would like.

Now, watching how Kyle is doing so far this season... new team, new team mates (who are about the same in attitude... Gibbs has his hands full with those 3 ), new car, new manufacturer, new sponsors. He's proving he is still an incredible driver even without being under the Hendrick umbrella. Good for him! As long as he keeps The Ass to a minimum, I can actually enjoy watching this kid drive. He definitely gave a good show at Saturday's truck race.

Whether they miss Kyle Busch or not, they made their bed with the decision to let him go to make room for Junior. I have a strong suspicion that Kyle Busch does not miss HMS.

[WestCoast]

Originally Posted by SteelPhoenyx

I have a strong suspicion that Kyle Busch does not miss HMS.

Agreed, he's on to bigger and better things now.
At Gibbs he has a possibility of being #1 when and if Stewart gets bored with Nascar, whereas at Hendrick he was always under scrutiny.
Right now, he's the most exciting driver out there, but getting back to Mears, I think it's like an Andretti NAME thing, the broadcasters do remind everyone that he is the son of a 4 time Indy winner.

[oncea3fan]

kyle will be more marketable then kasey as kasey is to quiet and really doesn't show much fire in the belly.

HMS won't miss kyly because he doesn't fit thier mold.
dare I say kyle is more on the dale sr. /tony stewart side.
I don't think HMS would even want tony because of his attitude.

I think kyle was really being held back at HMS kinda like "what I do now"

but with GIBBS they tell him go get 'em , and try not to hurt anybody.

kyle is the first driver that I've gotten excited over since dales death.
not to say he'd ever fill that seat, but he's headed for that type of I'm coming thru rep.