[ScottRide]

Did they do the right thing by trying to get the race in last night. Two days of constant rain, good amounts of water coming out of the track seems. Why didnt they just move it to monday in the first place? I had to wake up monday mourning so i passed out around ten still waiting on a decision. If they had waited could the race be more interesting than it will be today?

[Phils20]

No, they were dead wrong. I looked on several weather web sites, and it seemed painfully obvious the rain wasn't going to stop.

And since it is NASCARS claimed policy to run the entire race, and not just shoot for halfway, it was the wrong call. And it could have been make hours before to save the fans and teams a lot of hassle.

This whole mess is NASCARS fault, for scheduling themselves into a corner to begin with. They need a couple less dates, so the teams don't have to do this crap like they will today, and run 800 miles on one day, then go back east, and come back to Vegas next weekend. Total BS all the way around. From the decision to run the race, to the way they scheduled these races, to a jam packed schedule.

[wingkey1]

Based on the forecast we referenced early in the day, trying to get a race in sure seemed REAL optimistic (glass half full), or down right dumb (ZZ Top did indicate they'd be chasing the clouds away).

Maybe Trucks, Nationwide, and Cup all on same track, on same weekend ought to cease as a means towards additional flexibilities on a questionable weekend. Actually thinking about this just one nanosecond more has already convinced us this ain't the solution.

Don't much like the races broken up so much. Would have preferred a "let's do it tomorrow (Monday)" decision that ran the whole event contiguously.

But that's just our opinion.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

Based on the forecast we referenced early in the day, trying to get a race in sure seemed REAL optimistic (glass half full), or down right dumb (ZZ Top did indicate they'd be chasing the clouds away).

Maybe Trucks, Nationwide, and Cup all on same track, on same weekend ought to cease as a means towards additional flexibilities on a questionable weekend. Actually thinking about this just one nanosecond more has already convinced us this ain't the solution.

Don't much like the races broken up so much. Would have preferred a "let's do it tomorrow (Monday)" decision that ran the whole event contiguously.

But that's just our opinion.

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MIne too.

[bears9]

Yep they were very wrong, Jr and Hamlin were right when they said they shouldn't have been out there.

[ScottRide]

I dont know if it was just me but last night watching it seemed like everyone was just going through the motions and didnt really want to be out there. I think it took away from the fans cause now instead of watching a potentially really good race, we will now see a decent 3/4 a race with some of the major competitors starting laps down.

[3fanforever]

That's what you get when you have an organization controlled by tunnel visioned individuals who are more concerned with saving Gillian Zucker and her stupid race track than the safety of the drivers. And I don't care what the lap dogs say today, that's how I see it.

[jks812]

I think they did. But I also think that since they knew the track was seeping water onto it, the ones involved in the wreck because of it, should be allowed to bring out the back up car. Restart them a lap down because of that, if they have to. But I just feel like Nascar basically screwed them.

[Phils20]

But, jks if they did that, the conspiracy thoeries would really run wild. If they allow Dale Jr to get back in, even one lap down, with a new car, it would be a field day for those who feel NASCAR is fixed.

NASCAR just has to live with their bad decision. And so do we.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by 3fanforever

That's what you get when you have an organization controlled by tunnel visioned individuals who are more concerned with saving Gillian Zucker and her stupid race track than the safety of the drivers. And I don't care what the lap dogs say today, that's how I see it.

You and I are of exactly like mind! That track has been a dog since Penske built it and have yet to see anything notable in the line of racing, happen there. I don't know if Zucker has pictures of someone in the Family France in some compromising position but the organization sure seems obsessed with protecting her image, IRT the race.

Get California out of the line up and get a track (ANY TRACK!) where actual racing happens, with a minimum of distraction.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by Phils20

But, jks if they did that, the conspiracy thoeries would really run wild. If they allow Dale Jr to get back in, even one lap down, with a new car, it would be a field day for those who feel NASCAR is fixed.

NASCAR just has to live with their bad decision. And so do we.

Thats true. But I just feel like it's really nascar's fault and they should own up to it. Let Casey and Hornish bring out their back up's, since theirs were really non fixable. Let the others fix theirs and restart them a lap down.
Only 2 races so far and nascar is really proving how good they can screw people.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by jks812

Thats true. But I just feel like it's really nascar's fault and they should own up to it. Let Casey and Hornish bring out their back up's, since theirs were really non fixable. Let the others fix theirs and restart them a lap down.
Only 2 races so far and nascar is really proving how good they can screw people.

They been screwing people for a long time. They screwed a lot of drivers back when they tried to start a union in the late 60's, they screwed Tim Richmond by claiming he failed a drug test in the 80's, and they screwed drivers today with the BS qualifying rules!

No surprise they screw the fans today!

[bob101]

I think them starting was ok, but eventually it becomes obvioius that they can't get the race in just call it.

Calling the race at 2am EST is a joke. Why were they still trying to get it in?

I could see if the stands were packed and it was like 5pm. It was 11pm local time and there was NOBODY in the stands. So why delay it that long? At that point they already knew they were going to be racing on Monday.

I don't understand NASCAR's love affair with California. Even if it had been 72 and sunny the stands would not have been full.

Why tick off the eastern 1/3 of the US - you know the hardcore fans who actually pay the bills to please the 5-10,000 still left in the stands in California?

Here's a second thought as well. This week on the afternoon talk show about NASCAR on XM with Claire (I forget the name of the show) she interviewed the president of the speedway out there.

That was the dumbest woman on the planet. She kept saying the speedway got a bad rap for attendance - even tho it's never full because it was overbuilt with seats. That sounds like politcal BS to me.

Then she said the speedway got a bad rap for trash on the track. She said "all those problems" have been adressed and are no longer a problem. Really? Could have fooled me yeterday with all the wrappers on cars and such.

She then went on to defend the catering to the hollywood types while out there in CA. To me what's the point? You cater to the hollywood types what does that do for NASCAR? They give them everything for free so it's not like Tom Cruise paid to attend yesterday. How about catering to the fans - you know the ones who actually pay the bills.

I never heard of the lady but I was really disappointed to hear her talk. Then a few days later I was thinking of tracks like Nashville that can't get a race and obviously have a clue about racing in general.

She had a website of her own that she welcomed comments on, I sure wish I could remember what it was.