[bob101]

Posting for those not watching TV today.

Hendrick is currently replacing all it's team motors due to a lifter problem and all but one of it's lease motors. I think Joe Nemecheck is going to keep his engine and spot in the race tomorrow. The rest of them go to the back so big change in the lineups. I think the total is 7 engines so far.

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by bob101

Posting for those not watching TV today.

Hendrick is currently replacing all it's team motors due to a lifter problem and all but one of it's lease motors. I think Joe Nemecheck is going to keep his engine and spot in the race tomorrow. The rest of them go to the back so big change in the lineups. I think the total is 7 engines so far.

Wasn't watching but do recall that Toyo was "reported" as having an issue with I believe the lubricant or surface coating of their lifters. From your TV watching, is there / are they sounding similar?

[Lefty Noob]

Dang, that doesn't sound good. So much for them having all this figured out, I guess.

[Bassdogs]

How does this impact starting position for JJ. I assume he will lose the pole. Typically when a car goes to the back, the other cars in that column move forward. Does that mean the car that earns the 3d starting position from the duals Thur will move forward to the pole? The whole Daytona process keeps confusing me. How do they determine starting positions for the duals with so many cars going to the rear?

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by bob101

Posting for those not watching TV today.

Hendrick is currently replacing all it's team motors due to a lifter problem and all but one of it's lease motors. I think Joe Nemecheck is going to keep his engine and spot in the race tomorrow. The rest of them go to the back so big change in the lineups. I think the total is 7 engines so far.

Must be rigged! Just kidding!

What does that mean for Johnson? Does he keep the pole for the 500?

[Team Yates]

Engine problems pile up: #88-Earnhardt Jr. lost and engine midway thru the 2nd Wed practice at Daytona International Speedway and the team will change engines, then it was mentioned on SPEED's coverage that all the Hendrick Motorsports cars #24-Gordon, #48-Johnson, Earnhardt and #5-Mears will change engines as there is some sort of lifter problem. #66-Riggs team is changing engines, also uses Hendrick engines and the other teams that run Hendrick engines are checking them out: #09-Marlin, #87-Wallace, #70-Mayfield and #78-Nemechek [not changing engines]. Also #07-Bowyer lost an engine and is changing their engine.
confirmed engine changes: #48-Johnson, #5-Mears, #24-Gordon, #66-Riggs, #96-Yeley, #07-Yeley and #88-Earnhardt Jr. that means these drivers have to fall to the rear of the pack before the drop of the green flag for the Gatorade Duel they are running. #84-Allmendinger's team already changed engines over the past weekend. This does NOT effect where they start the Daytona 500. Team are allowed to change engines between the Duels and the Daytona 500.(2-13-200 Comment here.

[PenelopePitStop]

Wow! This is gonna be fun to watch tomorrow!

[wingkey1]

Anyone hear that a Roush/Yates co-employee has been banned for life by NASCAR for contaminating the lubricant resovoirs of both the Bowtie and Toyo shared resources trailers in an obvious attempt to equalize the performance of the engines?

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

Anyone hear that a Roush/Yates co-employee has been banned for life by NASCAR for contaminating the lubricant resovoirs of both the Bowtie and Toyo shared resources trailers in an obvious attempt to equalize the performance of the engines?

Do tell.... someone research this quickly

[Racer Duck]

we had a similar problem last year with our Late Model engine: lifters. turns out it's the oil's fault (we went thru 2 sets before we stumbled across this little gem.) seems the new oils have been reformulated without some essential additives that keeps the metal from wearing during break in. in a race engine, the lifters take the most beating and, thus wear fastest (along with the cam.)

turns out the solution is to use $6 a quart "break-in" oil from JGR.

but I can't believe those guys at HMS don't know about this unless they all got a shipment of the wrong oil in the barrels!!!

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Do tell.... someone research this quickly

OMG Qual88!! Nowhere can we now find the report on NASCAR.com associated with the similar Toyo problem. It was just here yesterday. Slight evidence may be found in the passing mention of Allmenginger's woes in the endless succession of Bowtie engine reports. Brians fingerprints are all over this thing. There was a camshaft on the grassy knoll. It's a conspiracy of the worst kind. Or Maybe knot.

No way in the whole wide world raggin' on you Qual88 I promise. We just decided to get in to the "Soap" mode that seems to be the lifeblood of many.

Back to the storyline. Odds in Vegas just increased ten fold in favor of a Ford team (there's really only one right?) winning this years Daytona 500. Uninformed sources indicate that informed sources are unreasonably doubting that the report is accurate but are suggesting that those betting on the outcome should. The reporter promises to further investigate the rumor that the 35 will be expanded to 36 just to ensure the Blue Oval races. Yew herd it hear furst.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

OMG Qual88!! Nowhere can we now find the report on NASCAR.com associated with the similar Toyo problem. It was just here yesterday. Slight evidence may be found in the passing mention of Allmenginger's woes in the endless succession of Bowtie engine reports. Brians fingerprints are all over this thing. There was a camshaft on the grassy knoll. It's a conspiracy of the worst kind. Or Maybe knot.

No way in the whole wide world raggin' on you Qual88 I promise. We just decided to get in to the "Soap" mode that seems to be the lifeblood of many.

Back to the storyline. Odds in Vegas just increased ten fold in favor of a Ford team (there's really only one right?) winning this years Daytona 500. Uninformed sources indicate that informed sources are unreasonably doubting that the report is accurate but are suggesting that those betting on the outcome should. The reporter promises to further investigate the rumor that the 35 will be expanded to 36 just to ensure the Blue Oval races. Yew herd it hear furst.

damn it .... I need a drink

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Quality88

damn it .... I need a drink

yer using that as an excuse? dang, Q, yer developin' character flaws...

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

yer using that as an excuse? dang, Q, yer developin' character flaws...

Everyone's a critic

[bob101]

Saw the interview live with the head Hendrick engine guy.

What he said sounded plausible was that it was probably just a bad batch of whatever the problem was. The coatings on the lifters or whatever.

Said it was built the same as the engines they did in testing and dyno work back at the shop and they had more hours on them than these engines they were replacing.

JJ won't loose his pole posistion, only the pole in the qualifier.