[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by lilsexy08

I think I read this in Nascar Illustrated or in Racing Milestones-older issues. I forget his name but this guy from the earlier years of Nascar, he was the best at cheating, and now he's head of a dept. in Daytona Research and Development Center! He used to use buckshots in the vehicle to make it heavier for his driver and in the middle of the race the driver had something to push and some of the buckshots would be released from the car to make it faster! I wish I could find the article!

You are no doubt talking about Gary Nelson.

I knew all about him back in his Darrell Waltrip days. Here is a quote from an article I found on the net.....

"Gary Nelson, for those of you who are recent NASCAR fans, is one of the sports' most prolific bender of the rules. Nelson was the man who filled the hollow roll-cage of Darrell Waltrip's car with lead buckshot to add weight to a car that was hundreds of pounds lighter without it when it was rolled onto the scales for pre-race inspection. Then, during the race, Waltrip would climb the banking in the turns during the pace lap, and open a valve that let the buckshot stream from the car and fall harmlessly to the apron. Then, when the race started, and his car lighter than all the rest....well.... you can figure it out. NASCAR inspectors never found the valve underneath the car because (and this is another stroke of Gary Nelson's brilliance) when the car was jacked up for inspectors to check under the car, the jack itself hid the valve, which would have been clearly visible had the car gone up on a lift."

Here is a link to the entire article.....
http://members.aol.com/jalan5000a/com0008.html

[desertrat]

Maybe Chad needs to get suspended again. The Johnson crew did quite well without him. Go Jimmie!

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

NASCAR inspectors never found the valve underneath the car because (and this is another stroke of Gary Nelson's brilliance) when the car was jacked up for inspectors to check under the car, the jack itself hid the valve, which would have been clearly visible had the car gone up on a lift."

Here is a link to the entire article.....
http://members.aol.com/jalan5000a/com0008.html

That was nothing more than innovative thinking. It wasn't the teams fault that they put something right where NASCAR would put a jack. WOW what a coincidence !!

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

That was nothing more than innovative thinking.

I prefer to call it CHEATING! Yes, it was brilliant, but still cheating nonetheless.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

I prefer to call it CHEATING! Yes, it was brilliant, but still cheating nonetheless.

We just spell it differently. I spell it "Knausing"

Show me a team that has not cheated in one way or another. The question is will they or have they been caught yet ? Just another argument FOR the IROC type of cars. When it does happen they will only have themselves to blame. I for one will lose interest in it at that point.

[Team Yates]

Originally Posted by lilsexy08

I think I read this in Nascar Illustrated or in Racing Milestones-older issues. I forget his name but this guy from the earlier years of Nascar, he was the best at cheating, and now he's head of a dept. in Daytona Research and Development Center! He used to use buckshots in the vehicle to make it heavier for his driver and in the middle of the race the driver had something to push and some of the buckshots would be released from the car to make it faster! I wish I could find the article! He did alot of things for his driver! Others as well! It still goes on, cheating!

The old saying is: it takes a thief to catch a thief, so it stands to reason that it takes a cheater to catch a cheater.

[lilsexy08]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

You are no doubt talking about Gary Nelson.

I knew all about him back in his Darrell Waltrip days. Here is a quote from an article I found on the net.....

"Gary Nelson, for those of you who are recent NASCAR fans, is one of the sports' most prolific bender of the rules. Nelson was the man who filled the hollow roll-cage of Darrell Waltrip's car with lead buckshot to add weight to a car that was hundreds of pounds lighter without it when it was rolled onto the scales for pre-race inspection. Then, during the race, Waltrip would climb the banking in the turns during the pace lap, and open a valve that let the buckshot stream from the car and fall harmlessly to the apron. Then, when the race started, and his car lighter than all the rest....well.... you can figure it out. NASCAR inspectors never found the valve


underneath the car because (and this is another stroke of Gary Nelson's brilliance) when the car was jacked up for inspectors to check under the car, the jack itself hid the valve, which would have been clearly visible had the car gone up on a lift."


Here is a link to the entire article.....

http://members.aol.com/jalan5000a/com0008.html

Brilliant!

[LADY3]

Originally Posted by Smoke842

Well, we have the Official Gordon Sucks Thread, so I had to start one about the 48, I just had to. There are numerous reasons why I don't like this team, but I'll just name a few.

- Blames everyone but himself for wrecks that are caused by him.
- Seems to cause a lot of restrictor plate wrecks.
- Always has the politically correct answer for everything, it's almost as if someone is feeding him the answers thru an earpiece.
- Cheatin Chad, just don't like him.

Okay, people, do you like the 48? Do you not like the 48?

I CAN'T STAND HIM - I CAN'T STAND HIM- I CAN'T STAND HIM!!!!!!!!!

[LADY3]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Oh I'm sure if you could go back 35 plus years and talk to some of the old timers and have them tell the truth we'd all be amazed at how much "Knausing" went on. I think one of the reasons NASCAR is more vigilant about it is because teams are always trying to be more creative about doing it. Slowly they will destroy their own sport. NASCAR will be forced into making all the cars just like the IROC cars. At that point I'll probably give up.

Please don't say that I'm hooked on this stuff it's like Nascarholic. I don't know what I would do if there were no more Nascar. Ha Ha Ha . Just being funny, but all joking aside. Surely with the number of fans Nascar has they won't let that happen.

[drnascar48]

I like Jimmie Johnson. He is a great guy to hang around. O by the way he came this and told everyone that he was the one that started that wreck at Talladage last year. Chad is alright man too. He is just like Jimmie Johnson. Just like Larry said the driver acts like the crew chief. If the driver does act the crew chief. The crew Chief acts like the driver. Jimmie and Chad are two great people to hang around with. I would know because when the were in Richmond,Virginia for the Crown Royal 400 I hung out with Jimmie and Chad that hole week. The reason why I did that was becaause my Unlce works for Hendrick Motorsports and then before my father died he worked at Hendrick Motorsports. So I have grown up around Hendrick Motorsports.This week I am going to my first NASCAR All-Star race. I haven't been too that race before. I always go to the Coca-Cola 600 every year. But this year I will be going to the All-Star race and the Coca-Cola 600 on behalf of Hendrick Motorsports.

[Smoke842]

Originally Posted by drnascar48

I like Jimmie Johnson. He is a great guy to hang around. O by the way he came this and told everyone that he was the one that started that wreck at Talladage last year. Chad is alright man too. He is just like Jimmie Johnson. Just like Larry said the driver acts like the crew chief. If the driver does act the crew chief. The crew Chief acts like the driver. Jimmie and Chad are two great people to hang around with. I would know because when the were in Richmond,Virginia for the Crown Royal 400 I hung out with Jimmie and Chad that hole week. The reason why I did that was becaause my Unlce works for Hendrick Motorsports and then before my father died he worked at Hendrick Motorsports. So I have grown up around Hendrick Motorsports.This week I am going to my first NASCAR All-Star race. I haven't been too that race before. I always go to the Coca-Cola 600 every year. But this year I will be going to the All-Star race and the Coca-Cola 600 on behalf of Hendrick Motorsports.

Cool, Dustin! Have a blast this weekend, those of us who aren't going are extremely jealous.

[lilsexy08]

Originally Posted by LADY3

I CAN'T STAND HIM - I CAN'T STAND HIM- I CAN'T STAND HIM!!!!!!!!!

I can't stand him either Lady3-is doing good though this year! Having to prove himself since his crew chief got caught! Now all eyes are focused on Knaus and what he does!

[Smoke842]

Originally Posted by LADY3

I CAN'T STAND HIM - I CAN'T STAND HIM- I CAN'T STAND HIM!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you! May they have bad luck this weekend. Sorry, Dustin, I still don't like the 48.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by LADY3

Please don't say that I'm hooked on this stuff it's like Nascarholic. I don't know what I would do if there were no more Nascar. Ha Ha Ha . Just being funny, but all joking aside. Surely with the number of fans Nascar has they won't let that happen.

Keep in mind it is all about the almighty dollar. The France family will do whatever it takes to make more of it. If that means changes to keep the big sponsors happy then you can bet it will happen.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by LADY3

I CAN'T STAND HIM - I CAN'T STAND HIM- I CAN'T STAND HIM!!!!!!!!!

DITTO - DITTO - DITTO!!!!!!!!!