[titans#1]

i say they should have heat races instaed of qualifing laps it would be the more intertaining solutuion.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by titans#1

i say they should have heat races instaed of qualifing laps it would be the more intertaining solutuion.

Yeah.... it would be funny as hell to see Gordon whining and cryin when he gets put in the wall and misses the race because of it

[Bassdogs]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Para 1: Yep, I am.

Para 2: Even with the Chosen 35 Rule, one shot at qualifying for a race in NA__AR's highest series is... ludicrous is about as nice a term as I can immediately come up with. I think NA__AR absolutely owes it to both the teams AND the fans to give these guys the best, yet reasonable chance they have to make the race.

My suggestion for this is to open the track for practice one hour after dawn on qualification day. Let them practice without interruption until noon. The, after an hour for track maintenance, give everyone one chance to qualify. Then thirty minutes off for more maintenance and whatever, then let EVERYONE who wants a second chance to throw out their first times and re-qualify. If they stack up their primary car in qual #1 then this is when they bring out the backup and pray..

Two attempts to get into the show are, IMNSVHO, reasonable. After Qual #2 the fastest 43 start and everyone else, no matter how many tee-shirts they sell or how much money the sponsor pours into the deal, goes home.

The above format would give the fans a reason to attend qualifying, give some drama and actually prove something (who is the most deserving to start based on actual "real time" accomplishment, not past performance.

I think we are basically on the same page, but approach it from slightly different angles.

Close enough, getting close to Race time.

[oncea3fan]

Bob,
I like the 2nd chance qualifing too, but I think the guys that can pull it off on the first try deserve to get the front spots, hense the top 20-25 in first round and the rest of the field in round 2. still get the same cars running but gives the hardest working guys a reward(top 20-25 start and pit pit selection) but also gives a 2nd chance for that flat tire or slip in 1st round.

sun up to noon and 2 rounds of qualifing is a long day and leaves no room for the support series so thats where I see my 2 day deal working better.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

Bob,
I like the 2nd chance qualifing too, but I think the guys that can pull it off on the first try deserve to get the front spots, hense the top 20-25 in first round and the rest of the field in round 2. still get the same cars running but gives the hardest working guys a reward(top 20-25 start and pit pit selection) but also gives a 2nd chance for that flat tire or slip in 1st round.

sun up to noon and 2 rounds of qualifying is a long day and leaves no room for the support series so that's where I see my 2 day deal working better.

Thanks for your support. (Apologies to Bartels & James)

I can easily agree with your proposal the first rounders get the top spots. My main objective was to offer a logical and economical alternative to the bogus Chosen 35 Rule. Hell, doing completely away with qualifying and simply drawing for starting spots would be preferable to the fiasco we have today!

Disagree with your thesis that it leaves no room for a support series event. All which I describe could be done the day before the actual race. Any support race could be run either after the Cup kids get through (on tracks with lights), or do a one day event (qualify then immediately race, as they often do in the CTS) the day prior to Cup qualifying. Doing it this way might even discourage the Cup prima donnas in running Cup Lite? (An unintended consequence?)