[lilsexy08]

Originally Posted by EXCELR8

...Toyota cars and trucks are more American made than GM, Ford or Dodge. Toyota is at the top of the heap because American people buy their cars, so why should they not be in Nascar. Every now and then someone comes along and raises the bar, regardless of the sport, and this time is no acception. Jack Roush is just pissed because he knows the competition will be even tougher when they are up and going. Toyota didn't throw a bunch of money at DJ either. They simply gave him what RYR didn't want too, the chance to have his own team after he retires.

I was going to comment-but I changed my mind!

[rmjvol]

Hi EXCELR8, welcome to GoTeamsGo

Appreciate you sharing your opinion with us here. I know you'll find plenty of healthy debate among the other members here on this topic and many others.

Another thing that you'll find is that we shoot for passionate discussions without any name calling. I don't think you were intentionally name calling but I tweaked your wording a bit to make sure it wasn't misinterpreted.

Passionate but civil discussion. That's one thing that makes us different from most of the other sports forums and we work hard to make sure that it stays that way.

Look forward to chatting with you more.

Thanks, Ross

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by rmjvol

Passionate but civil discussion. That's one thing that makes us different from most of the other sports forums and we work hard to make sure that it stays that way.

Boy, you got that right Ross. I frequent a large classic Mopar board that is constantly getting threads locked because of the American vs Japanese thing. Some of those threads get VERY ugly in a hurry. You do a great job at keeping this site civil and fun. Hope it stays that way.

Welcome to the board Excelr8!

[Zack Man]

well old DJ can't win with the stuff he's got how do you expect him to win with toyota

[LSC9901]

DJ will be for Toyota what Bill Elliott was for Evernham and the Dodges. Nothing more than an R&D man.

[Buckwheat]

I would imagine that Toyo will expect results from their teams. The teams might be playing catch-up, but I think they will have a lot of resources available to them from Toyota. The thing that bothers me is that I think Toyota will throw whatever money it takes to do well and "save face" in America's premier motorsport.

[LSC9901]

Money will not make a team. Time together and getting to know everyones needs and dislikes will be more valuable than anything. When a crew chief comes in with ideas that worked on another team and the rest of the team doesn't feel the same way, then nothing is accomplished other than no team work. It is a theory that has been proven over and over. I'm not saying that they cannot win, I'm just saying that money and a good driver do not create a championship. As I have noted before Michael Waltrip was nothing until DEI picked him up. Sadly Dale Jarrett appears to be on the downhill side of his career. Just those two scenerios alone put you a leg down on the competition. If Waltrip was that good he wouldn't be in 35th place. I gotta believe that when the teams are announced it will shed a lot more light on the subject. Either way I still think it will be a few years at the least before they become a force in the series.

[TN_Gal]

Originally Posted by Buckwheat

I would imagine that Toyo will expect results from their teams. The teams might be playing catch-up, but I think they will have a lot of resources available to them from Toyota. The thing that bothers me is that I think Toyota will throw whatever money it takes to do well and "save face" in America's premier motorsport.

All the money in the world can't change one thing for sure....

next Feb during driver introductions....the crowds reaction's

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by TN_Gal

All the money in the world can't change one thing for sure....

next Feb during driver introductions....the crowds reaction's

But the lack of victories and otherwise good finishes will diminish the sponsors desire to pour money down that losing hole. Time will tell. Waltrip is just a sad memory of what he once was with DEI.

[Lefty Noob]

Hi there, Buckwheat, and welcome to GoTeamsGo. Thanks for joining us here in the NASCAR area of the forum. Always good to see new faces! I'm sure you'll find plenty of lively discussion about the Toyota issue and other important NASCAR events here, so make sure you stick around, okay?

[Zack Man]

welcome to goteamsgo buckwheat

[Smoke842]

Originally Posted by Zack Man

well old DJ can't win with the stuff he's got how do you expect him to win with toyota

I like DJ, but, lol. Soooo right, Zackman.

[Buckwheat]

Thanks for the welcome guys.

Originally Posted by lilsexy08

Curious. Didn't think about that! Where are they going-the profits I mean, maybe back to Japan! I'm sure US gets a small cut! Does anyone know the answer to that question?

Where does Dodge's profits ultimately end up?
I guess you could say that in a way there is already is a European company in Cup racing.

[LSC9901]

Thats right. I sorta forgot that Dodge is now a European company.

[lilsexy08]

Originally Posted by Zack Man

well old DJ can't win with the stuff he's got how do you expect him to win with toyota

Hopefully having Waltrip with him maybe DJ can get er done! Their not having a good year this year are they, especially Waltrip!