[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I fear, Charlie, that as far as today's NA__AR is concerned, "Fair" is where you go to ride the ferris wheel.

And it's owned by Bruton Smith, and he will be movin it to another city because the community was tryin to stop him from installin a dragstrip.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Quality88

And it's owned by Bruton Smith, and he will be movin it to another city because the community was tryin to stop him from installin a dragstrip.

Noooooooooooo .. he wanted a roller coaster with that one.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Noooooooooooo .. he wanted a roller coaster with that one.

Ooooops I'm sorry, I forgot.... the city was afraid to many people would pee their pants

[jks812]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

So how would Jr fit into that scenario ??

I've been thinking about that and can't figure out where he'll start. He's basically taking over the #5 which they changed him to the #25 with the #88. So whose points does he get? I say it's a new team, since HMS didn't have the #88 last year. So let him start like every new team, 0 points.

[PenelopePitStop]

Ok ... almighty ones ... I'm lost!

Regardless of the fact that I don't think an owner should be able to even do this (within his/her own stable), does transferring the owner points from Kurt Busch to Sam Hornish Jr. mean that Kurt will start with zero? Not safe for the Chosen? Obviously? Maybe. But nothing in NASCAR is obvious to me anymore!

[clutch]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Ok ... almighty ones ... I'm lost!

Regardless of the fact that I don't think an owner should be able to even do this (within his/her own stable), does transferring the owner points from Kurt Busch to Sam Hornish Jr. mean that Kurt will start with zero? Not safe for the Chosen? Obviously? Maybe. But nothing in NASCAR is obvious to me anymore!

He's not chosen anymore PPS......Penske has given his chosenness away to the new teammate........but he does have his past champ provisional to fall back on if he cant qualify ....however one would expect him to qualify on time or speed if you like

[SpaceCadet]

This whole thing has made put my liver in a quiver right from the start. If I were Hornish, I'd be totally embarrassed. Talk about a blow to the ego, wow. If I were Busch, I think I'd almost have to see it as a compliment. Love him or hate him, he and his infamous little bro can both drive, as we know. Both the sponsor's and owner obviously have enough faith in him to give this a go. Granted, there is that champion's provisional thing to fall back on, so it's not a humongous risk, but I would think you'd have to be confident that your driver wasn't a total dork to actually yank his points. Personally, I'd like to see Kurt have a great year, qualifying on time each race and racking up some wins, proving you don't need points or provisionals to get in the race, just a little somethin' called talent.

[LSC9901]

I don't care a lot for Kurt (or Kyle) but this would be a nice slap in the face for NASCAR. If he could do as you say, qualify and even get some wins, it would prove there is no great need for the chosen 35 rule. I might be able to agree to a couple free passes throughout the year for every team but the current system plain old stinks.

[jks812]

And would make it even better if Kurt did that and Hornish didn't even remain in the top 35.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by jks812

And would make it even better if Kurt did that and Hornish didn't even remain in the top 35.

The ideas and thoughts just keep gerttin better and better.

[azrael492]

What exactly are owner points and how do they differ from racing points? I have never heard of this before.

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by azrael492

What exactly are owner points and how do they differ from racing points? I have never heard of this before.

Start here and feel your confusion build Jayski's® Silly Season Site - NASCAR Frequently Asked Questions(FAQ)

Then there's
Jayski's® Silly Season Site - NASCAR Frequently Asked Questions(FAQ)

or perhaps
What is the Difference Between NASCAR Driver Points and NASCAR Car Owner Points?

to round out the experience
NASCAR.COM - Guarantee of top-35 keeps pressure on drivers, teams - Nov 18, 2007

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[Quality88]

Originally Posted by azrael492

What exactly are owner points and how do they differ from racing points? I have never heard of this before.

Same thing pretty much.

[Bob Tanner]

May I ad yet another layer to this saga?

OK, riddle me this, Batman:

Let's say Reutimann is in the Chosen after the fifth race and Jarrett hasn't gotten the #44 in there, but is 36th or 37th in owner's points. UPS wants Reutimann for their driver when Jarrett departs after the fifth race.

If this should happen, will Mikey swap the owner's points from the #00 to the #44? This would give UPS and Reutimann membership in The Chosen and the #00 and whomever is going to drive it would be out in the cold.

What in the current NA__AR rules would prohibit such an action?

Do any of you think this would cause any discussion?

Just a random thought...

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

May I ad yet another layer to this saga?

OK, riddle me this, Batman:

Let's say Reutimann is in the Chosen after the fifth race and Jarrett hasn't gotten the #44 in there, but is 36th or 37th in owner's points. UPS wants Reutimann for their driver when Jarrett departs after the fifth race.

If this should happen, will Mikey swap the owner's points from the #00 to the #44? This would give UPS and Reutimann membership in The Chosen and the #00 and whomever is going to drive it would be out in the cold.

What in the current NA__AR rules would prohibit such an action?

Do any of you think this would cause any discussion?

Just a random thought...

Damn you Bob and your questions....I bet he would if allowed. On the other hand he may believe David to be able to get his self into the races and Bring himself up.