[Bob Tanner]

I lifted the following from Jayski, IRT the Snowball Derby:
Kyle Busch and Steve Wallace Disqualified at Snowball Derby; Grill Wins: Steven Wallace and Kyle Busch's cars were both disqualified in post-qualifier tech after initially making it into the field. Kyle Busch wasn't too happy. He was tossed from the event due to a height infraction. Both Busch and Steven Wallace were very irate in the pit area and told Speed51.com that they are displeased with Ricky Brooks (head tech inspector) and his philosophies. Steven Wallace was found to be light when crossing the scales after tech. They let the team roll off the scales and roll back on. During that time he was caught trying to put sockets in his pockets.(Speed51.com)(12-2-2007)
UPDATE: A statement from Steve Wallace: “I just want to make it clear that although our car supposedly missed one of the inspection criteria in Pensacola, it was in no way done in an attempt to get around the rules. From day one, I have had a deep respect for the sport and its integrity. As far as I’m concerned, that respect carries over to any team for which I drive, as was the case with Richie Wauters Racing in this weekend’s race. We definitely had the car to beat in Pensacola, but for one reason or another, the officials were really hard on both of our teams all week long. We got disqualified because they claimed that we missed one of the inspection criteria by a razor thin margin; a margin small enough that it could have been due to almost anything.(Rusty Wallace Inc PR)(12-3-2007)

These guys are found illegal and they get sent home. Their crew chiefs aren't sent home but the car gets to race. Hey, NA__AR! IT WORKS!
I've seen this work over and over on numerous short tracks around the country. NA__AR's refusalto follow this lead is, to me, a perfect example of the sanctioning body's "cop out to the sponsors, team owners and driver fans" attitude, which does nothing for the competition.

I also heard, but haven't seen verified, that Steve Wallace was in deep kimchee with Five Flags people because, for some unknown reason, in a fit of juvenile vandalism, he destroyed $10,000 of Port-a-Potties in the infield Saturday night.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I also heard, but haven't seen verified, that Steve Wallace was in deep kimchee with Five Flags people because, for some unknown reason, in a fit of juvenile vandalism, he destroyed $10,000 of Port-a-Potties in the infield Saturday night.

That must have been some fit. I don't even care to go in them, why would anyone with just a half a brain want to start tipping them over ????? Is he even a teenager yet ???

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

That must have been some fit. I don't even care to go in them, why would anyone with just a half a brain want to start tipping them over ????? Is he even a teenager yet ???

I repeat, Steven, this is only a rumor I heard. The problem is that, having seen Steve Wallace do interviews, the persona he portrays make me believe this. I interpret his words and actions as coming from a self-important, spoiled little kid.

Ny wife has a cousin who exhibits the same type of attitude. As far as I'm concerned, he's a poster child for Planned Parenthood.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I repeat, Steven, this is only a rumor I heard. The problem is that, having seen Steve Wallace do interviews, the persona he portrays make me believe this. I interpret his words and actions as coming from a self-important, spoiled little kid.

I believe the correct quote here would be:

"The nut don't fall far from the tree"

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I repeat, Steven, this is only a rumor I heard. The problem is that, having seen Steve Wallace do interviews, the persona he portrays make me believe this. I interpret his words and actions as coming from a self-important, spoiled little kid.

Ny wife has a cousin who exhibits the same type of attitude. As far as I'm concerned, he's a poster child for Planned Parenthood.

I too have looked and looked and cannot find a verifiable source for the rumor. I found one place where the rumor repeater stated it was on Jayski, but nowhere I could find. Makes me believe someone is "improving" on the DQ story....

I mean, it's bad enough Blinky gets caught putting sockets in his pockets.....then has the ba**z to say their rules were too unforgiving??? I wonder how many sockets make up a "razor thin margin"? maybe "Pockets" is a better moniker than "Blinky"....

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

I too have looked and looked and cannot find a verifiable source for the rumor. I found one place where the rumor repeater stated it was on Jayski, but nowhere I could find. Makes me believe someone is "improving" on the DQ story....

I mean, it's bad enough Blinky gets caught putting sockets in his pockets.....then has the ba**z to say their rules were too unforgiving??? I wonder how many sockets make up a "razor thin margin"? maybe "Pockets" is a better moniker than "Blinky"....

In this incidence whatever Busch and Wallace did are immaterial to me, Duck. What got my attention, and I'm 100% sure would catch NA__AR's team's attention, was the fact that the promoter found something flagrantly wrong with the cars they presented for competition and the entire team was told to pack up and go home!

NA__AR could see this as an example of how things are done in "real racing."

[thunderfoot]

Rules violations are just that. Its like when I go in front of the local judge because I drove 90 mph on the freeway, I have to tell the judge that yes I drove 90 mph on the freeway. That is a violation of the rule of 60 mph. So I get penalized. It costs me money and or suspension. Should I destroy the judges chambers because it cost me? That would be foolish. It would cost me more in the long run. A person with deep pockets should be fined accordingly. His team and car needs to go home. Give the starting spot to one that qualified fairly and within the rules. I whined big time when building my first racer and my father who was a Winston West official made me build the car as per the rules. "But the other guys are building their cars this way. I need to beat them so I should build my car as they are building theirs." I was told that when I beat them I will be able to hold my head up high because I beat them fair and square. It took 3 years to get in the winners circle. But when I did, I felt ten foot tall and bullet proof. In fact we had blown our big motor and HAD to be on the track that night, for it was our sponsors night at the track. This winning engine cost me $25.00 and I bought it from a tow yard auction. Go figger that one out. My high dollar race motor was upstaged by TWENTY FIVE BUCKS. The track announcer knew what we had in our car and played it up big to the crowd. We became the track favorite for that night. But I also learned an important thing that night. When underpowered they behave so much better. You can make more aggresive tweeks to the cars and get great results. But dont go overboard on the tweeks cause it can sink your efforts for the night. The morale of the story is PLAY FAIR. You will feel better for it.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by thunderfoot

A person with deep pockets should be fined accordingly. His team and car needs to go home. Give the starting spot to one that qualified fairly and within the rules. .

You hit the nail on the head, as far as I'm concerned!

Mikey was found illegal, big time,. at Daytona. yet, they allowed him to run the GatorAid 125 and get into the race. If I'm not mistaken, Kevin Lepage, who was legal, finished one place away from making the field in the race Mikey ran.

The #48 was found in violation of cheating on the body of the new race car. Knause got sent home but Johnson went on to race. Yet (I believe) Brian Vickers, whose car was totally legal, got a ticket home.

Even though NA__AR does a lot right, these actions, on my opinion,. leave its credibility in the dumpster.

[Racer Duck]

a racer's basic view of "creative rule interpretation" aka "CRI":

1. IF the cost of CRI is less than 1st place prize money, then go for it - there's only a 50% chance you'll be caught anyway.
2. IF the cost of CRI is more than 1st place prize money, make it legal - it ain't worth it otherwise.

bottom line: most, if not all, racers will cheat if the ROI is favorable.