[wingkey1]

Car counts currently too low (Cup) to make this anything other than a possible complete points runaway for the top teams when/if repeatedly winning both the heats and the main. And this likely on regular basis since all entrants will pretty much always be in both.

This "works" where entrants notably exceed the available field size for the Main.

While it sounds fun, it just doesn't fit / work with what actually exists now (available and credible participants).

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by simple simon

is any yahoo with the money allowed to enter a Heat Race ? ...... how would it sit if i make my debut in a NASCAR event at the Loudon chase race and i take out a chaser ?

in a word, yes .. provided............

depending on the track, NASCAR may choose to limit the "yahoo" to smaller tracks for his/her first race or two .. just depends on the what experience the "yahoo" has.

as to how it would sit, can you remember back a couple months about the flap about the F1 World Champ, Jacques Villenueve starting his first race at Talladega? now can you imagine a novice in that position? 'nuff said...

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

Car counts currently too low (Cup) to make this anything other than a possible complete points runaway for the top teams when/if repeatedly winning both the heats and the main. And this likely on regular basis since all entrants will pretty much always be in both.

This "works" where entrants notably exceed the available field size for the Main.

While it sounds fun, it just doesn't fit / work with what actually exists now (available and credible participants).

currently there are usually 48+ entrants for every race, sometimes approaching 55 or more. so, where does "notably exceed the available field size" kick in?

another question pertinent to to the discussion, but not a topic of this thread is: how big is too big? I submit that 40+ cars at Bristol or Martinsville are too many, but 50 or more might be OK at the larger, more spacious tracks like Daytona, Talladega, Michigan and California .. maybe even Pocono and Indy! Daytona has had as many as 68 start a race on the high banks and regularly had fields of 50 in the race until 1969. Talladega had fields of 50 take the green thru 1975, while the other four mentioned have had trouble getting full fields several times but there should be no reason, spacewise, why the larger fields won't work.

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

currently there are usually 48+ entrants for every race, sometimes approaching 55 or more. so, where does "notably exceed the available field size" kick in?

another question pertinent to to the discussion, but not a topic of this thread is: how big is too big? I submit that 40+ cars at Bristol or Martinsville are too many, but 50 or more might be OK at the larger, more spacious tracks like Daytona, Talladega, Michigan and California .. maybe even Pocono and Indy! Daytona has had as many as 68 start a race on the high banks and regularly had fields of 50 in the race until 1969. Talladega had fields of 50 take the green thru 1975, while the other four mentioned have had trouble getting full fields several times but there should be no reason, spacewise, why the larger fields won't work.

where does "notably exceed the available field size" kick in? - pretty much never when dreams of 50+ fields become the delight/demand/suggestion of the observing public.

Interesting too the suggestion that the governing body provides definitive to "yahoo entrants" to limit their prescence at certain venues. More rules - perfect. Kind of a backdoor/different approach to ensuring the "non-yahoos" are guaranteed a start for so long as they do not fall within the governing bodies definition of "yahoo". Different twist on the "Chosen".