[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by thunderfoot

LSC it has made a world of difference. May God bless you all.

God has blessed us all by helping you gain strength. Keep up the good work.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by thunderfoot

I am in the library and the the old bag here is not very nice!

Hmmm, tell her you tryin to communicate with your family and see if she leaves you the heck alone then

[Racer Duck]

I got an email today from Wayne's pastor. I've edited out some info that isn't pertinent, but am giving you the rest of it. Basically, it's all good news .. but some won't see it that way.

I don’t know if you have heard from Wayne. He does not have internet access at this time. He is at West Seattle Psychiatric Hospital, and is in court today re. commitment to a treatment program. Funding from the State of Washington has come through, so it may be merely a matter of when a bed comes available. This after a 3rd attempt on his life. He struggles with depression as well as well as 30 years of “yes” to addictions. I spoke with him last night, but do not have that phone number at this desk.

Wayne is to contact Pete Sinrud in my absence. Pete has been in recovery for a long time, knows the language, has the recovery Bible studies and related resources, and testifies to how God has transformed both he and his wife. Pete and I met this morning on Wayne’s behalf.

Thank you for all you have done/are doing from your end. Wayne is worth it, as Jesus, from the cross, says, “Love him on my behalf.”

Bob R

What this means is that Wayne is getting the care he's been needing for quite a while. And the prospects are looking up for his recovery.

What it doesn't mean is that we've prayed enough for him. We need to continue our love expressions via prayers. When I have an address for cards and letters, I'll post it. 'Till then, route them thru the Man Upstairs.

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Every life is a life worth saving. Prayers never go unheard by the Boss.

[3fanforever]

Believe me, I know what he's going through. I'll sure keep praying for him

[azrael492]

Thank you for the update. I know what he and his family is going through growing up with a depressed mother and alcoholic father. I will keep him in my thoughts until I hear he has recovered. Please keep us updated.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by azrael492

Thank you for the update. I know what he and his family is going through growing up with a depressed mother and alcoholic father. I will keep him in my thoughts until I hear he has recovered. Please keep us updated.

Wayne doesn't have a family. His parents are gone and as far as I know he's an only child. He's never mentioned anyone else except an ex wife who was one of the causes of his current condition. Thankfully she's been gone for many years. Also, thankfully, there's some great Christian people in Seattle who do care for him. Still, the road to recovery must be traveled by him. All we can do is encourage, support and pray.

Pastor Bob has notified everyone at the church that Peter Sinrud is Wayne's contact. I've been in touch with Peter already. In his response he said

"I haven’t had an opportunity to work with Wayne much as of yet. He seems to want an “easier softer way” than what Serenity Seekers has to offer. You can check us out at Serenity Seekers - Home. As a Certified Chemical Dependency Professional, I have observed that too many people want to get recovery without the deep inner soul searching that is required of most of us, hence “the easier softer way.” Way too many have died trying to find short cuts to peace and serenity."

Peter, who's been working in this field for 25 years, said they use a 12 step recovery program based on Biblical perspectives. If you're familiar with 12 step programs, the onus is on the patient to discover and acknowledge the cause(s) and to pursue the healing, the counselor is there to guide and assist if needed. That's so much harder than just taking a pill...

[3fanforever]

During my first months of recovery, I was told by an old timer who was helping me, "I wish I could give you what I have, but I can't." At the time that seemed like an odd thing to say. Another one of those contradicting sayings you hear, like "In order to keep what we have, we must give it away." Huh? Well...later on I got it. Now I'm sitting here after 11 years clean and serene, wishing I could give Wayne what I have, knowing that I can't. That is frustrating. All I could do, and the people he's now with, is give him the tools, the guidance, and the encouragement to get it for himself. But it's all up to him. Hopefully he'll want it badly enough this time. I'll keep praying he does.

[Team Yates]

I'm truely embrassed that I only just came across this, although I haven't been on in awhile. Of course, Thunder has all of my prayers, and those of my husband - rustyfan2!! Thunder, I'm sorry that life has been giving you the bowl of pits. I'm here thinking of you, and hoping for you a speedy recovery!!
Good luck my fellow Gilliland fan!!

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by 3fanforever

During my first months of recovery, I was told by an old timer who was helping me, "I wish I could give you what I have, but I can't." At the time that seemed like an odd thing to say. Another one of those contradicting sayings you hear, like "In order to keep what we have, we must give it away." Huh? Well...later on I got it. Now I'm sitting here after 11 years clean and serene, wishing I could give Wayne what I have, knowing that I can't. That is frustrating. All I could do, and the people he's now with, is give him the tools, the guidance, and the encouragement to get it for himself. But it's all up to him. Hopefully he'll want it badly enough this time. I'll keep praying he does.

Originally Posted by Team Yates

I'm truely embrassed that I only just came across this, although I haven't been on in awhile. Of course, Thunder has all of my prayers, and those of my husband - rustyfan2!! Thunder, I'm sorry that life has been giving you the bowl of pits. I'm here thinking of you, and hoping for you a speedy recovery!!
Good luck my fellow Gilliland fan!!

I know that Wayne's plight is rare, but not unusual. As his Pastor said "30 years of bad and unwise choices..." will put you in a place you don't want to be. And it won't be easy to get out of the mess you're in when you finally wake up. I think he's now woke up. And just like starting to rebuild a muscle that hasn't been used in a while, you can't do much and it hurts when you try - but that's the only way it gets stronger, by continuing to work it.


Because Wayne is not in a position to thank you at this time, I'll do it for him. I know he still wants and needs our prayers.

THANK YOU!

[Racer Duck]

Since I've had a few queries about Wayne recently, I thought I'd take a minute to give out an update.

Currently he's in the West Seattle Psychiatric Hospital and they are treating his substance abuse and depression problems. Thru a number of people working in his behalf, much of the cost is being covered. Like everyone, he has his good days and his bad days. But, on the whole, I think he's doing well. He seems to have a good attitude and is willingly participating in his treatment/recovery.

I know some of you have tried to maintain an email/PM connection with him and also know it's sporadic at best. He has very limited time on the computer, so tries to make it as productive as possible. I was gratified to see he participated in the California race predictions.

I don't have a specific mail address for him at the moment. We (he and I) are just beginning a snailmail exchange and have yet to get completely linked up. As soon as we get the kinks worked out I'll let you know so you can send cards & letters.

As always, continue to keep him in your prayers. It took many years of wrong/bad choices for him to get to this place, so it's not going to be a quick recovery. I believe he is in the beginning stages of the return trip and the trip won't be easy. In fact, it may well be the hardest thing he's ever done in his life. But we can make it easier by continuing our encouragement and prayers. Sometimes all a person needs is to know someone else is rooting for them. So, keep it up, he's worth it.

[Team Yates]

I AM RIGHT HERE FOR YOU
THUNDERFOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


KEEP DIGGING!!!!

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Team Yates

I AM RIGHT HERE FOR YOU
THUNDERFOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


KEEP DIGGING!!!!

DAMN STRAIGHT!

[Bette]

We're all here for you Thunderfoot. It's not going to be easy, not at all. But you have been given friends in different spots all across this great land of ours. Just envision our thoughts and prayers flowing from each of these spots, and take the strength you need from that vision.

[clutch]

Originally Posted by Bette

you have been given friends in different spots all across this great land of ours.

..........and in far, far away places.

RD, thanks for keeping everyone updated. Thunderfoot I hope to see you posting again soon!

Peace to you Bro