[vincesanity82]

Everyone, even Joe Gibbs, Jack Roush and Richard Childress, has played in the long shadows the Hendrick dynasty has cast across the tour this year. Ray Evernham is not alone in reevaluating the big picture and looking for a new road to take. After seven years as a car owner, Evernham has reluctantly realized that it's not that easy running a NASCAR operation. It was more comfortable as just a crew chief, with a tight cadre and a very focused agenda. Evernham has moved back to the technical side of the company, but it's not quite clear what his new role is. A "super" crew chief? A team manager? "We're putting more and more people in place, and you'll probably see less of me as things go on, as I concentrate on things behind the scenes," Evernham said. ... So Evernham is at a crossroads, both frustrating and relieving at the same time. "You look back and think, ‘Man, I've had a 15-year run in this business that hasn't been too bad,'" Evernham said. "I moved down to Charlotte in '92 with everything I had in the back of a pickup truck. -- Winston-Salem Journal

Winston-Salem Journal | Rethinking: Evernham's role is changing

[Racer Duck]

ya really gotta read the whole article. it's pretty revealing and aligns well with what Ray said on Speed TV before Phoenix.

I think Ray knows exactly what he's doing. his only ? is how much he wants to be involved with the daily workings in the teams. seems his focus is trying to teach his crew chiefs what it takes to be winners like he was, not how to setup the cars. (if the truth be known, I think he really is looking for another Chad Knaus or Robbie Reiser 'cause none of his CC's come close...)

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

ya really gotta read the whole article. it's pretty revealing and aligns well with what Ray said on Speed TV before Phoenix.

I think Ray knows exactly what he's doing. his only ? is how much he wants to be involved with the daily workings in the teams. seems his focus is trying to teach his crew chiefs what it takes to be winners like he was, not how to setup the cars. (if the truth be known, I think he really is looking for another Chad Knaus or Robbie Reiser 'cause none of his CC's come close...)

Ray did little to breed a new Knause, Steve Hmiel, or himself, Duck. He came up with this silly Crew Chief by Committee concept. Committees in a garage work just like a committe in a boardroom; it's a good concept for the inept to hide behind.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Ray did little to breed a new Knause, Steve Hmiel, or himself, Duck. He came up with this silly Crew Chief by Committee concept. Committees in a garage work just like a committe in a boardroom; it's a good concept for the inept to hide behind.

I think he's really trying to find someone with the leadership qualities it takes to be a winning crew chief. using a committee to flush them out is one way...not always the best way, but one way...

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

I think he's really trying to find someone with the leadership qualities it takes to be a winning crew chief. using a committee to flush them out is one way...not always the best way, but one way...

if you remember, he's come up with basically the Japanese model for quality & efficiency in a factory .. the prelude to 6-sigma.

[lilsexy08]

I heard about that. I read it in Nascar Illustrated. I think its a good move for Ray E! He can concentrate on racing standpoint and let Gilette-probably didn't spell that right handle everything else. Ray's organization needed the financial backup anyway. I didn't think the teams were doing well at all. Couldn't give what the drivers needed to perform.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

if you remember, he's come up with basically the Japanese model for quality & efficiency in a factory .. the prelude to 6-sigma.

Let's just say I'm not a big fan of W. Edwards Deming (the architect behind the "Japanese model of production") and his 14 points of quality. IMNSVHO he did to individual labour what John Maynard Keynes did to economics; took the common sense out of it. Deming just went to the next step and took the individualism out of labour and turned the worker into a de facto machine, governed by committees.

I'm sorry. I know this isn't a platform for my twisted theories on socio-economics. Your bringing up the "Japanese model for efficiency" just hit a nerve. I'll fade out now.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Let's just say I'm not a big fan of W. Edwards Deming (the architect behind the "Japanese model of production") and his 14 points of quality. IMNSVHO he did to individual labour what John Maynard Keynes did to economics; took the common sense out of it. Deming just went to the next step and took the individualism out of labour and turned the worker into a de facto machine, governed by committees.

I'm sorry. I know this isn't a platform for my twisted theories on socio-economics. Your bringing up the "Japanese model for efficiency" just hit a nerve. I'll fade out now.

I agree wholeheartedly, it's just that when folks first discover it, they think they've found the key to heaven. after they work it for a while they see the dreadful underbelly or come completely proselytized (not sure where Ray is on this journey.) still, it's one way to find leaders, 'cause they don't (usually) fall in line and goose-step into oblivion with their brothers. problem is it screws up the organization while the search is on...usually requiring a complete transfusion of new workers who haven't been exposed to "the Japanese model"...

you have twisted theories on socio-economics? how can that be when your central STIG is common sense? but if that's so, I guess I fall somewhere near you...

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

I agree wholeheartedly, it's just that when folks first discover it, they think they've found the key to heaven. after they work it for a while they see the dreadful underbelly or come completely proselytized (not sure where Ray is on this journey.) still, it's one way to find leaders, 'cause they don't (usually) fall in line and goose-step into oblivion with their brothers. problem is it screws up the organization while the search is on...usually requiring a complete transfusion of new workers who haven't been exposed to "the Japanese model"...

you have twisted theories on socio-economics? how can that be when your central STIG is common sense? but if that's so, I guess I fall somewhere near you...

The way to find a leader (which is what a CC basically is) is easy and simple. It's called delegation of authority. Do this, plus take your new matra of management, micro-management, and stuff it up the anus of some wienie who knows he's/she's a boss because they have a diploma which says so, then stand back, keep your mouth shut and watch. The leader will present himself/herself in short order. The rest will remain sheep or leader-wantabe's.