[3fanforever]

Edwards apology...

ESPN - Edwards sorry for post-race blow-up with Kenseth - Nascar

[Phils20]

Newest update from Jayski. Seems Carl is taking responsibilty, and trying to mend fences.

Is is enough?

UPDATE: Owner Jack Roush has talked to both drivers with a simple message. "He told them they've got to settle this without wrecking our cars," team president Geoff Smith said on Tuesday. "He told them to get yourself at peace with one another, then go compete against one another as hard as you want to compete." Smith said neither driver would be punished by the organization, noting that Roush has a policy that teammates are allowed to compete against each other as though they are not teammates. Smith doesn't believe Edwards intended to hit Kenseth.(ESPN.com)(10-23-2007)
AND: Carl Edwards apologized Tuesday for his actions following Sunday's race at Martinsville Speedway, saying he was wrong to show his anger toward Roush Fenway Racing teammate Matt Kenseth. Edwards said on a NASCAR teleconference that trouble has been brewing between the pair for a while and that it's probably been six months since they've had a conversation. Now, he wants to change all of that. Edwards is hoping that he and his Roush Fenway teammates can do a better job of having a "team spirit," and he says he plans to do his best to communicate better not only with Kenseth, but with all his Roush Fenway teammates. Edwards took full blame for his actions, pledged to get to know his teammates better and analyzed what could have brought on this type of display. He added that he would take the first step toward mending fences.(SceneDaily.com)(10-23-2007)

[kcoruol]

If it's not bad enough that he physically threaten Henseth, now Edwards is crying about his own team mates not calling to congratulate him when Jimmie Johnson does?!

I guess his team mates must know him better than Jimmie. I've seen both Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon both congratulate drivers from other teams when they win. It's called sportsmenship! It's what gentlemen who compete against each other do.

[lilsexy08]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think that this situation at RFR has been brewing for quite sometime now. I saw Biffle on INC last night, and he took more than one opportunity to throw Edwards under the bus. IMO Biffle should have handled it better. His comments were unnecessarily personal against Edwards. I think there may be some friction going on at RFR involving Biffle & Kenseth vs. Edwards. Now that Mark is gone they are all fighting to be the #1 driver. Don't get me wrong... I think that all three are great drivers, but Edwards is the "total package". Along with his talent... he has looks, drive, and is well-spoken. I can't say that Biffle or Kenseth have all of those qualities.

I have had the opportunity to meet Carl & his family in person on more than one occasion. He is the "real deal". Those of you who call him a fake obviously have the right to your own opinion, but take into consideration that he is young & has some growing up to do. He made a mistake confronting Matt when he knew there were cameras rolling, but if the camera's weren't there I really don't see that Carl was in the wrong. There were no punches thrown and no one was hurt. It was to guys who just got done racing an intense 500 miles and were trying to sort through a problem.

My opinion of Carl has not changed. He's human. He makes mistakes. He's still darn fun to watch race every weekend!

Also i'd like to add for those of you who might think he's on roids... you are talking about a guy who doesn't drink a drop alcohol & is dating a doctor. I highly doubt it... but again ya'll have a right to your opinion.

Just because he is the "real deal" thats fine but in the video I saw him putting his fist like he was going to hit him but it was just a threat-that is what pissed me off the most. Things are done in the heat of the moment but Carl could have done this off camera and elsewhere! I don't care he is dating a Dr. or hasn't done alcohol thats irrevolent (spelled that wrong). To me he is just getting an attitude lately-not like the Carl first came to Nascar who was nice to everyone. Just an opinon.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I just choose NOT to be a member on this board.

I really wish you would choose to be a member. It helps differentiate you from all the other "Unregistered" posters who wander in and out all the time. If you want to hide in the foyer, that's fine with me though we really are interested in your opinions and nobody has been run off yet for expressing theirs, unless it violates the Forum Rules.

And you're making extra work for the mods (we're basically a lazy lot) since your posts don't appear unless we say so ... membership has it's privileges...

However, since it's not a requirement to be a member to post, I just wanted you to know why your posts are slow in appearing.

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

I really wish you would choose to be a member. It helps differentiate you from all the other "Unregistered" posters who wander in and out all the time. If you want to hide in the foyer, that's fine with me though we really are interested in your opinions and nobody has been run off yet for expressing theirs, unless it violates the Forum Rules.

And you're making extra work for the mods (we're basically a lazy lot) since your posts don't appear unless we say so ... membership has it's privileges...

However, since it's not a requirement to be a member to post, I just wanted you to know why your posts are slow in appearing.

Thanks! This seems like a really great place, but i've vowed not to take on another board!! Seriously... lol. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to express my opinion and my love for my driver. Please let me be clear that I think Edwards looked like an idoit coming at Matt right before an interview, but I still have a lot of respect for the guy & as a fan you take the good with the bad. (right stewart fans? -jk)

BTW... Mark Martin probably could kick his butt, but Mark would never race him like that to begin with! Mark is a class act!

So I will now go back into lurking mode until you talk bad about my driver... you can bet i'll be here again to back him up! Sorry for the extra work I have caused you Racer Duck!

Bye everyone!

[kcoruol]

Too bad "unregistered" member doesn't want to join the forum here. I applaud him/her for sticking up for Edwards and offered some constructive and supportive views of him.

I think that myself and many others probably had a good view of Edwards until this video came to light. It leaves us wondering who's the real Carl Edwards. I think if he's so unhappy driving with the team he's with then maybe he should move to HMS since he seems to like them and gets emotional support from them.

I hope his apology is from his heart and from a few days of soul searching and not a result of business strategy. By next week it'll be last weeks scandal and everybody will be focusing on the up coming scandal that has yet to take place but certainly will.

[lilsexy08]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks! This seems like a really great place, but i've vowed not to take on another board!! Seriously... lol. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to express my opinion and my love for my driver. Please let me be clear that I think Edwards looked like an idoit coming at Matt right before an interview, but I still have a lot of respect for the guy & as a fan you take the good with the bad. (right stewart fans? -jk)

BTW... Mark Martin probably could kick his butt, but Mark would never race him like that to begin with! Mark is a class act!

So I will now go back into lurking mode until you talk bad about my driver... you can bet i'll be here again to back him up! Sorry for the extra work I have caused you Racer Duck!

Bye everyone!

Hey unregistered! About Stewart point taken but I love him!
Sounds like you not just a fan but maybe a family member or Carl himself! LOL!

[CarlFanFromOZ]

Some good points from both sides of the table, I'm a Carl fan and I just can't defend him for this one. It was a bonehead move of the finest order and something he will regret for the rest of his professional career or while ever he is with RFR(Which I hope is forever) Ford is running our of good drivers.

I think this comes down to pressure, Carl started the season in Busch white hot 4 wins and 12 or 13 top 10's in the first 15 races, but since then he has had a terrible time of it. I know the points lead is comfortable, but I think Carl let Kevin Harvicks comments play on his confidence and in the last 15 races he hasnt closed the deal as well as he could have especially since he has slipped behind the 29 in owner points. Then he and Matt get together when Carl has a chance to clinch the Busch title. Then you throw in the pressure of being in the Chase, the penalty for the rear ride height etc etc etc

It's enough to strain a relationship which is already strained to breaking point. And thats what happened. Those who watched the Kansas Busch race saw the contact that he and Matt made and the following major contact with the wall that Carl made. Carl also made a clapping jesture to Matt after he went into the wall.

Then Carl and Matt got together again at Martinsville, a couple of times with Carl having a tough race and it all blew up.

He snapped plain and simple. Pressure makes people do crazy things

Checkout the vision of the contact at Kansas on Youtube, thats where it really went sour. They also have the vision of the discussion/dust up between Matt and Carl.

I'm a Roush fan and a Ford fan, I can't afford to loose either of these guys so fingers crossed they work it out. Sometimes this kind of erruption can be a good thing, it brings everyones issues to the table so that they can be settled and everyone can move on.

[Bob Tanner]

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[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by CarlFanFromOZ

Some good points from both sides of the table, I'm a Carl fan and I just can't defend him for this one. It was a bonehead move of the finest order and something he will regret for the rest of his professional career or while ever he is with RFR(Which I hope is forever) Ford is running our of good drivers.

I think this comes down to pressure, Carl started the season in Busch white hot 4 wins and 12 or 13 top 10's in the first 15 races, but since then he has had a terrible time of it. I know the points lead is comfortable, but I think Carl let Kevin Harvicks comments play on his confidence and in the last 15 races he hasnt closed the deal as well as he could have especially since he has slipped behind the 29 in owner points. Then he and Matt get together when Carl has a chance to clinch the Busch title. Then you throw in the pressure of being in the Chase, the penalty for the rear ride height etc etc etc

It's enough to strain a relationship which is already strained to breaking point. And thats what happened. Those who watched the Kansas Busch race saw the contact that he and Matt made and the following major contact with the wall that Carl made. Carl also made a clapping jesture to Matt after he went into the wall.

Then Carl and Matt got together again at Martinsville, a couple of times with Carl having a tough race and it all blew up.

He snapped plain and simple. Pressure makes people do crazy things

Checkout the vision of the contact at Kansas on Youtube, thats where it really went sour. They also have the vision of the discussion/dust up between Matt and Carl.

I'm a Roush fan and a Ford fan, I can't afford to loose either of these guys so fingers crossed they work it out. Sometimes this kind of erruption can be a good thing, it brings everyones issues to the table so that they can be settled and everyone can move on.

Hey CarlFanFromOZ, welcome to GoTeamsGo and the NASCAR Forums.

Seems you have a levelheaded view of Mr. Edwards. I like a fan who is loyal, but sees the blemishes and rough edges and admits them.

I encourage you to offer up your opinion on the many other subjects that we seem to get involved in discussing as well. And be sure to stop by the "predictions" thread and give us yours for the coming race.

Again, welcome.

[CarlFanFromOZ]

Thanks will do

[Jeffrey4318]

Sounds like Nascar needs to give him a piss test for steroids. Some might laugh at that comment but I am serious. Man works out alot and has frequent additude changes. Sounds pretty fishy to me. As far as the resolution to the problem? Lets just say one day Roush will have to wake up. Maybe it will be during contract talks with Biffle. I wonder if the situation with Edwards changes any of his views on staying with RFR now. I'm sure an owner like Childress or Gibbs would love to talk with Biffle right now. He might just listen even more. Hell being teammates with Stewart or Harvick look a whole lot better now than with Edwards. As far as Kenseth goes he might want to look in other directions himself. I'm sorry but if I'm Roush I choose Matt over Carl any day. Matt is the only "real deal" at RFR. Edwards can win all the Nationwide champs all he wants, but I have a hard time ever seeing him hold up a Cup. Just doesn't seem like a consistant enough driver to ever win a championship. He just isn't elite.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey4318

Sounds like Nascar needs to give him a piss test for steroids. Some might laugh at that comment but I am serious. Man works out alot and has frequent additude changes. Sounds pretty fishy to me. As far as the resolution to the problem? Lets just say one day Roush will have to wake up. Maybe it will be during contract talks with Biffle. I wonder if the situation with Edwards changes any of his views on staying with RFR now. I'm sure an owner like Childress or Gibbs would love to talk with Biffle right now. He might just listen even more. Hell being teammates with Stewart or Harvick look a whole lot better now than with Edwards. As far as Kenseth goes he might want to look in other directions himself. I'm sorry but if I'm Roush I choose Matt over Carl any day. Matt is the only "real deal" at RFR. Edwards can win all the Nationwide champs all he wants, but I have a hard time ever seeing him hold up a Cup. Just doesn't seem like a consistant enough driver to ever win a championship. He just isn't elite.

Just because he works out alot and has attitude changes, doesn't mean he's on steroids. I work out every day and my attitude constantly changes, and I don't take steroids.
I think Roush can handle this. I like the fact that he kinda lets the drivers handle it and straighten it out themselves. At least I don't feel like the "everything is great between us" change is an act, like with Stewart and Hamlin, when Gibbs made them get along.
Also, why does almost everyone act like Matt is so innocent? Maybe Carl did let it fester to long before saying something to Matt. But it's not like Matt hasn't gotten into Carl on the track when it looked like it could have been avoided.

[Jeffrey4318]

Originally Posted by jks812

Just because he works out alot and has attitude changes, doesn't mean he's on steroids. I work out every day and my attitude constantly changes, and I don't take steroids.
I think Roush can handle this. I like the fact that he kinda lets the drivers handle it and straighten it out themselves. At least I don't feel like the "everything is great between us" change is an act, like with Stewart and Hamlin, when Gibbs made them get along.
Also, why does almost everyone act like Matt is so innocent? Maybe Carl did let it fester to long before saying something to Matt. But it's not like Matt hasn't gotten into Carl on the track when it looked like it could have been avoided.

I never said Matt was all innocent. you do have to wonder who the problem is when two teammates start calling out the other.