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Old 10-29-2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: Career Decision on the Horizon for Gordon

Anyone else notice during one of the pre-race shows (Trackside, Race Day, or something) that they claimed that Gordon would have clinched the Cup already if it wasn't for The Chase.

Spencer and others were praising NASCAR for implementing The Chase for making the championship more exciting. BS! Some of you trash drivers and call them "sponsor whores"? What about these commentators?
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:42 PM
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Re: Career Decision on the Horizon for Gordon

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Anyone else notice during one of the pre-race shows (Trackside, Race Day, or something) that they claimed that Gordon would have clinched the Cup already if it wasn't for The Chase.

Spencer and others were praising NASCAR for implementing The Chase for making the championship more exciting. BS! Some of you trash drivers and call them "sponsor whores"? What about these commentators?

Think I will keep quiet on that one! LOL!
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:53 PM
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Anyone else notice during one of the pre-race shows (Trackside, Race Day, or something) that they claimed that Gordon would have clinched the Cup already if it wasn't for The Chase.

Spencer and others were praising NASCAR for implementing The Chase for making the championship more exciting. BS! Some of you trash drivers and call them "sponsor whores"? What about these commentators?

Gordon would have clinched the Cup already if it wasn't for The Chase - indeed, making it championship #6 (Chase took him out of another besides this year) for the 24.
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:02 PM
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Gordon would have clinched the Cup already if it wasn't for The Chase - indeed, making it championship #6 (Chase took him out of another besides this year) for the 24.
You lost me ...

Can you give me the other time Gordon lost the Cup due to The Chase and to who? I'm guessing Johnson.

Of course, Gordon hasn't lost it this year yet.
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:17 PM
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You lost me ...

Can you give me the other time Gordon lost the Cup due to The Chase and to who? I'm guessing Johnson.

Of course, Gordon hasn't lost it this year yet.
Can you give me the other time Gordon lost the Cup due to The Chase and to who? - yeah if I wasn't such a lazy bum. Likely one of the "stat" folks can do it from memory. May well have been the first year of the Chase - but again that's from an admitted lazy bum. Do know it is true though.

Of course, Gordon hasn't lost it this year yet - of course. Think though that the folks you paraphrased were saying that were there no consolation event (some call it the Chase), his points after 26 races, combined with the points accumulated with now just 4 races remaining, would (pre-consolation event remember) make him mathematically the Champion. Now were the folks you paraphrase accurate? - do not know but suspect it possible.

So - were there never the consolation event (Chase) the 24 would be now a 6 time Champion.
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:55 PM
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Re: Career Decision on the Horizon for Gordon

It was either the first or second year of the chase That Gordo lost it the title due to the chase.
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It was either the first or second year of the chase That Gordo lost it the title due to the chase.
So, who won, Q?
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So, who won, Q?
Kurt Busch won the first year of the chase, and I believe Stewart took the cup the second. It was one of those two years. The big deal was, if the chase didn't exist Jeff would have won under the old points system.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:41 PM
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Re: Career Decision on the Horizon for Gordon

In 2004, the first year of the Chase, Gordon led the point standings after 26 races and going into the 10-race playoff. He had five wins, 11 top-five finishes and 18 top-10s after 26 events, building a 60-point lead over teammate Jimmie Johnson.

But when the points were reset under the new Consolation (Chase) format, Gordon's lead dwindled to just five. He wound up losing the title by 16 to upstart Kurt Busch.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:43 PM
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In 2004, the first year of the Chase, Gordon led the point standings after 26 races and going into the 10-race playoff. He had five wins, 11 top-five finishes and 18 top-10s after 26 events, building a 60-point lead over teammate Jimmie Johnson.

But when the points were reset under the new Consolation (Chase) format, Gordon's lead dwindled to just five. He wound up losing the title by 16 to upstart Kurt Busch.
Thanks wing.... I knew it was either first year or second year.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:29 PM
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In 2004, the first year of the Chase, Gordon led the point standings after 26 races and going into the 10-race playoff. He had five wins, 11 top-five finishes and 18 top-10s after 26 events, building a 60-point lead over teammate Jimmie Johnson.

But when the points were reset under the new Consolation (Chase) format, Gordon's lead dwindled to just five. He wound up losing the title by 16 to upstart Kurt Busch.
Got it! Thanks!

But I have a question: Regardless of the reset for The Chase, would Gordon have won the Cup based on the last 10 races? Follow me? I know I'm not explaining myself right ... Throw The Chase away in 2004. Gordon would have won?
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Got it! Thanks!

But I have a question: Regardless of the reset for The Chase, would Gordon have won the Cup based on the last 10 races? Follow me? I know I'm not explaining myself right ... Throw The Chase away in 2004. Gordon would have won?
Throw The Chase away in 2004. Gordon would have won? - Correct. Were there no Consolation event (Chase) in 2004, Gordon won it at the end of 36 races.

Here's a real cutie - with the current Consolation event (Chase) format (it is different than the 2004 thing), who would have been the 2004 Chase winner? If anyone (I do not) even cares.

If there was ever a true anti-HMS conspiracy in NASCAR, the Chase format is likely it. It successfully (to date) has ensured HMS does not have a 6 time Champion by awarding the bogus Chase-based recognition trophy.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:54 PM
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Throw The Chase away in 2004. Gordon would have won? - Correct. Were there no Consolation event (Chase) in 2004, Gordon won it at the end of 36 races.

Here's a real cutie - with the current Consolation event (Chase) format (it is different than the 2004 thing), who would have been the 2004 Chase winner? If anyone (I do not) even cares.

If there was ever a true anti-HMS conspiracy in NASCAR, the Chase format is likely it. It successfully (to date) has ensured HMS does not have a 6 time Champion by awarding the bogus Chase-based recognition trophy.
6? I thought Gordon only had 4 (so far)?
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:00 PM
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6? I thought Gordon only had 4 (so far)?
2004 would/should have been his 5th, and this year should/would be his 6th.
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6? I thought Gordon only had 4 (so far)?

Go back to your original post paraphrasing announcers you heard to say - without the Chase format this year (2007), Gordon has already won. That'd be #6. The 2004 "Chase knocks out Gordon" - #5.

For those who would have preferred - "never would have had the Chase" - we've a 6 time Champion.
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