[vincesanity82]

What began on pit road at Dover as a war of bumpers between two-time Cup champion Tony Stewart and rookie Paul Menard has turned into a war of words on the road from Charlotte to Martinsville.

Stewart says money can't buy talent. On his radio show this week, he had some harsh words for the son of his 1997 IRL Championship team owner:

"You can have your father buy your ride and write DEI a big check, but you can't buy talent. And that's what John Menard's been good at his whole life, is just buying success. He's bought his son a Nextel Cup ride and he's just got enough talent to just be in the way most of the time."

Stewart Menard Spat Gets Personal - FanHouse - AOL Sports Blog

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by vincesanity82

What began on pit road at Dover as a war of bumpers between two-time Cup champion Tony Stewart and rookie Paul Menard has turned into a war of words on the road from Charlotte to Martinsville.

Stewart says money can't buy talent. On his radio show this week, he had some harsh words for the son of his 1997 IRL Championship team owner:

"You can have your father buy your ride and write DEI a big check, but you can't buy talent. And that's what John Menard's been good at his whole life, is just buying success. He's bought his son a Nextel Cup ride and he's just got enough talent to just be in the way most of the time."

Stewart Menard Spat Gets Personal - FanHouse - AOL Sports Blog

So, Mr. Stewart, are we saying that John Menard "bought" your 1997 IRL Championship?

Tony, you and Bob Tanner have a few things in common, least of which is the habit of saying something, then thinking about exactly what you said.

"Just enough talent to get in the way?" Hmmm...??? Funny how much difficult it is to see the ground the higher you fly, Tony. I don't recall the exact quote but back in 1996 when Joe Gibbs was trying you out in the Shell Oil Pontiac, I remember you putting Randy LaJoie into the wall at some race (Rockingham, I think it was). Randy had words similar to the ones you voiced over Paul.

Does the biblical verse, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," mean anything to you, Tony?

[PettyBlue]

Come on Bob,you know Stew would never bad mouth another driver or anyone else,right?I think,maybe,oh I forget,lol.

[Phils20]

Whether you like Tony or not, I think he has more racing talent than Paul will ever have.

His comments are still crappy, but Menard hardly bought Tony that IRL title. I didn't think they were really considered as a great team in those days. I don't even know if they still run a car.

Does anyone think Paul Menard is a great talent?? I haven't seen it.

Of course, with all the cup regulars in the Busch rides, I don't know where these young drivers are supposed to fine tune their driving, but that would be another post altogther!

Tony, come to the trailer please. NOW!!

[jks812]

Maybe Tony knows of which he speaks, that John Menard buys success. Maybe now we know how Tony got his IRL championship. Why does Tony think Menard was suppose to stop and wait for him to pull out of the pit? Oh shoot I forgot, he's a chase driver and Menard's not.
I liked Tony's talent. But he sure has turned into a cry baby this year. It's always someone elses fault and never his.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Phils20

(1)Whether you like Tony or not, I think he has more racing talent than Paul will ever have.
(2) His comments are still crappy,.
(3) but Menard hardly bought Tony that IRL title
(4) Does anyone think Paul Menard is a great talent?? I haven't seen it.
(5) Of course, with all the cup regulars in the Busch rides, I don't know where these young drivers are supposed to fine tune their driving, but that would be another post altogther!
icon_heh:

(1) No argument there.
(2) Ditto above.
(3) Based on Tony's quote, I believe that can be debated,
(4) Well, Paul's racked up one more BGN win than I have so I'll decline comment.
(5) Refer to (1) and (2) answers.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

(1) No argument there.
(2) Ditto above.
(3) Based on Tony's quote, I believe that can be debated,
(4) Well, Paul's racked up one more BGN win than I have so I'll decline comment.
(5) Refer to (1) and (2) answers.

Sounds like we are close to the same page at least! AS far as Pauls one win, Justin Labonte won a race too, and I don't see him around anymore!

But we shall see. Tony didn't do a whole lot in the Busch series, and he took off in cup.

But back to this topic, I don't see where Menard did much wrong in this case, but I guess it gives us something to talk about!

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Phils20

Sounds like we are close to the same page at least! AS far as Pauls one win, Justin Labonte won a race too, and I don't see him around anymore!

But we shall see. Tony didn't do a whole lot in the Busch series, and he took off in cup.

But back to this topic, I don't see where Menard did much wrong in this case, but I guess it gives us something to talk about!

Yeah, Buckshot Jones actually won a BGN race once, so there goes the "Winners" logic right out the window.

As I remember it, Tony was a rolling accident in BGN. And let's remember, until 1994 Jeffie Pooh didn't feel much love from his fellow drivers in the stock car ranks either. The learning curve in NASCAR can be painful for all concerned.

Insofar as pit problems go, NASCAR has made some strides in pit administration, (speed limits, safety equipment, etc., etc.) but until they figure out a cure for the congestion, there will ALWATS be problems on pit road. My vote is for widening the pit lanes drastically and making parallel pitting.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by Phils20

Justin Labonte won a race too, and I don't see him around anymore!

He ran the truck race today, unofficially in 12th.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

He ran the truck race today, unofficially in 12th.

That is great! I don't mean to pick at Justin, I'm a fan of the Labontes.

I missed most of the truck race today. Motorcycle riding season is winding down faster than the race season, so I put on some miles today! Can't miss tomorrow, so one race had to be sacrificed. I did get home in time to see it, but things had to be done around the house!

[LSC9901]

Stand by for this one. I'm going to agree with Tony on one point. "You cannot buy talent". In Tony's case it appears that there is no cure for stupidity .... unless he would just shut his mouth.

I'll agree that for the chase drivers the remaining 31 cars on the track can be in the way. By agreeing with that statement I in no way feel that the 12 have this special right to the track. Someday Tony will understand just how foolish he sounds ... it's just when it will happen that I wonder about.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Stand by for this one. I'm going to agree with Tony on one point. "You cannot buy talent". In Tony's case it appears that there is no cure for stupidity .... unless he would just shut his mouth.

I'll agree that for the chase drivers the remaining 31 cars on the track can be in the way. By agreeing with that statement I in no way feel that the 12 have this special right to the track. Someday Tony will understand just how foolish he sounds ... it's just when it will happen that I wonder about.

Steve, I believe that Tony's comments have gone beyond the "foolish" stage. His complaints about the "phantom cautions" and NASCAR being on a par with WWF was right on target, but since then... Most of what has come out of Tony's mouth, concerning Cup competition, comes across as just plain whining.

I agree that the 31 Non-Chosen can become problematic for The Chosen but (God help me but I'm going to quote Mike Helton), it is what it is. Get over it, Tony!

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

So, Mr. Stewart, are we saying that John Menard "bought" your 1997 IRL Championship?

that was basically the first thing i thought of as well ...... "Mr. Menard's money was good enough to give you a ride, so shut the heck up"

Does the biblical verse, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," mean anything to you, Tony?

yeah, i realize the question is rhetorical but i will answer it anyway ..... no Bob, it means absolutely nothing to him

[NASCAR Gnome]

For the Martinsville race this Sunday - i.e., the "Subway 500" (10/21/2007 for archiving purpose)

Tony Stewart qualified 34th...

Paul Menard qualified 35th!

Unless something is arranged, their pit boxes should be right beside each other right?

Stewart has to realize that HE'S the one who has everything to lose, not Paul Menard!

"It's better to keep one's mouth closed and THOUGHT THE FOOL... Than to open it and REMOVE ALL DOUBT!"

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by NASCAR Gnome

For the Martinsville race this Sunday - i.e., the "Subway 500" (10/21/2007 for archiving purpose)

Tony Stewart qualified 34th...

Paul Menard qualified 35th!

Unless something is arranged, their pit boxes should be right beside each other right?

Stewart has to realize that HE'S the one who has everything to lose, not Paul Menard!

"It's better to keep one's mouth closed and THOUGHT THE FOOL... Than to open it and REMOVE ALL DOUBT!"

Qualification gives them descending choice of choosing which pit they want. Stewart's rep would pick 35th and [hopefully] Menard's rep will bite the bullet and pick a pit stall no where close to Tony.

As for your last paragraph, one of these days I'm going to get the hang of that concept! <g>