[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Jail?? A blasphemy!

As we can tell from Rick's exploits with price fixing and mail fraud, justice does not reign supreme at Hendrick Motor Sports.

Ahhhhhh that's right. The only "J" word(s) at HMS now are Jeff & Jimmy. Sorry Rick.

[SpaceCadet]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Jail?? A blasphemy!

As we can tell from Rick's exploits with price fixing and mail fraud, justice does not reign supreme at Hendrick Motor Sports.

How did Rick Hendrick and HMS get off the hook? They didn't "pardon" themselves - even Hendrick doesn't have that much power. I don't think it was up to them - I'd say a judge somewhere had that power, not Rick Hendrick. He may have been dumb enough to get himself in that spot in the first place, but it was our courts that got him out. I don't think you can blame him for that. Justice doesn't reign at all at HMS or anywhere else, except for in our courtrooms. That's who's responsible, IMO.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by SpaceCadet

How did Rick Hendrick and HMS get off the hook? They didn't "pardon" themselves - even Hendrick doesn't have that much power. I don't think it was up to them - I'd say a judge somewhere had that power, not Rick Hendrick. He may have been dumb enough to get himself in that spot in the first place, but it was our courts that got him out. I don't think you can blame him for that. Justice doesn't reign at all at HMS or anywhere else, except for in our courtrooms. That's who's responsible, IMO.

Space I'd have to say that you are being naive on this one. Do you think it is at all possible to have money influence thinking and if not that at the very least it will buy the highest powered law firm that will beat the system with technicalities.

I'm sure Bob will again respond to this issue. He is well versed on the HMS fraud case.

Take it away Bob.

[SpaceCadet]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Do you think it is at all possible to have money influence thinking and if not that at the very least it will buy the highest powered law firm that will beat the system with technicalities.

I absolutely believe it is possible to have money influence thinking. It is up to the person on the bench as to how influenced he/she allows him/herself to be. Now, the point about hiring a high powered law firm - I can't dispute that even a little. (Can you say OJ?) I really know zilch about the whole Hendrick case. My only thought is that some court some where let him off. If it was on a technicality, they had no choice. If it was for any other reason, my feeling is that they own that problem then. I hope Bob does weigh in because I'm willing to learn, for sure. And you're right, I might be looking at it through those old rose colored glasses I have a tendancy to wear at times.

[PettyBlue]

S.C. these links will tell you about the Hendrick case and our wonderful ex pres. Bill C. Hendrick's pardon, Bank's $500,000 gift to Clinton Library, draw scrutiny by House investigators [Free Republic] and Lawyer: Hendrick pardon not tied to Clinton Library donation [Free Republic] Belive what you will but I say Bill would sell you a night's stay in the White House for the right price.Now here comes his wife,someone help us please,lol.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

S.C. these links will tell you about the Hendrick case and our wonderful ex pres. Bill C. Hendrick's pardon, Bank's $500,000 gift to Clinton Library, draw scrutiny by House investigators [Free Republic] and Lawyer: Hendrick pardon not tied to Clinton Library donation [Free Republic] Belive what you will but I say Bill would sell you a night's stay in the White House for the right price.Now here comes his wife,someone help us please,lol.

You beat me to it, Petty. I know political matter bore many people but I would be remiss if I didn't add to your thoughts that Rick was Pardoned by the same stroke of a pin that pardoned and commuted the sentences of the following scum bags:

List of people pardoned by Bill Clinton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bill Clinton pardons controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Keep in mind, all this was accomplished by the same guy with the moral turpitude that led him to commit lewde and lascivious acts in the Oval Office and rape Juanita Brodrick, an act which he has NEVER denied!

In case no one remembers what Rick did to run afoul of the law, I present the following:
In 1997, Hendrick pleaded guilty[2] to mail fraud. In the 1980s, Honda automobiles were in high demand, and Honda executives allegedly solicited bribes from dealers for larger product disbursements. Hendrick admitted to giving hundreds of thousands of dollars, BMW automobiles, and houses to American Honda Motor Company executives. Hendrick was sentenced in December of that year to a $250,000 fine, 12 months home confinement (instead of prison, due to his leukemia), three years probation, and to have no involvement with Hendrick Automotive Group or Hendrick Motorsports during his year of confinement. In December 2000, Hendrick received a full pardon from President Bill Clinton.

Note the leukemia part. Though a history of cancer isn't especially different in the Hendrick family than it is in any other family, during the trial, when it was apparent that Rick was going to start dining on the taxpayer's dime, his medial team diagnosed him with having a rare form of leukemia. Quite a fuss was made over this in the court. Them Rick pleaded guilty and his prison time was commuted to house detention (and I'm here to tell you, calling Rick Hendrick's estate a "house" is like calling a Lamborghini Diablo a " compact car?") for "health reasons? There are still a lot of knowledgeable people who believe that gratuities found their way to the Federal Judge who commuted Rick's jail time. But then, within about a month Rick's "leukemia" mysteriously went into permanent remission? It makes one wonder if the cure for cancer is a jail sentence, doesn't it?

I detest criminals. I especially detest white collar criminals because these scumburgers are usually people whom other put a whole lot of trust in that they criminally betray that trust. Unfortunately, this last group is also the type who often have the means to buy justice, in the form of bribes, gifts and donations to political campaigns and Presidential Libraries. I admit to believing to the bottom of my soul that if you do the crime, you should be ready to do the time. Rich Hendrick fails on every level.

If I'm not clear, or if you still don't know where I stand on this matter, please allow me to state that I just to not like the guy, nor to I have any respect for his ethics or morals.

[PettyBlue]

Hey Bob,you may like this read, White House coffeepots perked up big money - fundraising by the Clinton administration - Cover Story Insight on the News - Find Articles

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

Hey Bob,you may like this read, White House coffeepots perked up big money - fundraising by the Clinton administration - Cover Story Insight on the News - Find Articles

Thanks, Petty. But these two (and Jimmy Carter) are like the distant relatives whom you allow to stay in your spare bedroom "Until they can get things together," then just stay, and stay, and stay, and stay, an st..."
The more despicable things the Clintons say and do, the more certain segments of our society and the media fall in love with them. Personally, I just wish they would go away and I could push my "selective amnesia button."

But, every time I listen to the radio or read the paper, I hear even more about them. Socialism DOES NOT work and I fear for our country.

[PettyBlue]

Agree. How is it stated?Don't go away mad,just go away.In this case far,far away.

[SpaceCadet]

Ok, I get it now. Quite a complicated event, I'd say. So Hendrick does the crime and his contacts and or money get him off. Hendrick, politicians, big business execs, judges - they all share the blame. Kind of makes me wanna hork. My rose colored glasses are fogging up.

[wingkey1]

Vote for Hillary. She knew nothing of it. Honest. Promise. To be sure. Undoubtedly. She's clean. Really. Double dip honest sure. More.

[LSC9901]

I don't want to be a stick in the mud but we are supposed to shy away from political discussions.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

I don't want to be a stick in the mud but we are supposed to shy away from political discussions.

Whenever I'm told to "Take it away, Bob," my mind boggles with the possibilities. <VBG>

[LSC9901]

Don't we all Bob, don't we all. My focus is/was to keep our sports discussions out of the political arena. Politics mixes well with nothing !

[NearaKafjaisa]

What's Up?,

I'm just starting here. And it seems like a sweet forum.

I just wanted to give a friendly hello to all of you here.



-Ashleigh