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Old 09-06-2007, 06:11 AM
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CoT and Plate Racing

NASCAR vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said Tuesday that its possible a car of tomorrow test next week at Talladega Superspeedway could result in allowing Nextel Cup teams restrictor plates with larger openings for October’s race at the 2.66-mile track.
The Oct. 7 race at Talladega will be the first using the COT for a restrictor-place race.
“We’ll be there next week for a two-day test, fine-tuning the plate size and things of that nature,” Pemberton said.
“This car will allow us to open up the restriction a little bit on the engine. They'll make a considerable amount of horsepower more than what they have raced at Talladega and Daytona in the past.”
The openings in the plates allow air into the carburetor, so bigger openings would mean more power. With the current openings, drivers keep their accelerators planted all the way down. The hope is that bigger plates would give them some throttle response and with it the ability to get more power when it’s needed to complete a pass.

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Old 09-06-2007, 01:35 PM
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Re: Talladega plate fine-tuning possible

I wonder how these cars are going to race at Talladega. If they make the restrictor plate bigger I think that the pack will still be there, and that it won't change much.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:39 PM
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Re: Talladega plate fine-tuning possible

Two words,throttle response!
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: Talladega plate fine-tuning possible

My ex's nephew got to race in ARCA and he loved Talladega! Full throttle baby!
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:16 PM
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Two words,throttle response!
Will it be much better with a 'slightly' larger opening?
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Will it be much better with a 'slightly' larger opening?
I think so.If you are flat out,wide open even in a draft,what then when I catch you?If I can draft and stay with you at 90 or 95% throttle I can pass you at 100% with no help from anyone,= better raceing for all.
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Old 09-06-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: CoT and Plate Racing

I think this would be good for the drivers, but horrible for the fans.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:28 PM
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NASCAR vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said Tuesday that its possible a car of tomorrow test next week at Talladega Superspeedway could result in allowing Nextel Cup teams restrictor plates with larger openings for October’s race at the 2.66-mile track.
The Oct. 7 race at Talladega will be the first using the COT for a restrictor-place race.
“We’ll be there next week for a two-day test, fine-tuning the plate size and things of that nature,” Pemberton said.
“This car will allow us to open up the restriction a little bit on the engine. They'll make a considerable amount of horsepower more than what they have raced at Talladega and Daytona in the past.”
The openings in the plates allow air into the carburetor, so bigger openings would mean more power. With the current openings, drivers keep their accelerators planted all the way down. The hope is that bigger plates would give them some throttle response and with it the ability to get more power when it’s needed to complete a pass.

That's Racin' | 09/05/2007 | Fine-tuning possible for Talledega plate

Sounds like a track for the RYR Rockets!! What a great early b-day present that would be!! RYR in V-lane!!
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Sounds like a track for the RYR Rockets!! What a great early b-day present that would be!! RYR in V-lane!!
You got that one right TY. I would love to see David there.

My comment on the COT is that since there is now a spec body, how long till a spec chassis and engine? Spec engines SUCK! All these teams have spent so much money on building their own wind tunnels, and you cant tweak the bodies, what good is that expense? Penske wants to build his own race track
for testing. Finally something NASCAR cant get their mitts in the middle of. It's just the local people moaning about it. Oh well, build it anyway. Spend the 21 mill to do it and have fun.
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Re: CoT and Plate Racing

That should at least make for better throttle response. This could mean a resurgence of the sling shot. I'd like to see that... I think. I'm not sure any one of these drivers would be capable of pulling it off without triggering the biggest of big ones.
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You got that one right TY. I would love to see David there.

My comment on the COT is that since there is now a spec body, how long till a spec chassis and engine? Spec engines SUCK! All these teams have spent so much money on building their own wind tunnels, and you cant tweak the bodies, what good is that expense? Penske wants to build his own race track
for testing. Finally something NASCAR cant get their mitts in the middle of. It's just the local people moaning about it. Oh well, build it anyway. Spend the 21 mill to do it and have fun.
Spec engines SUCK - Spec engines aren't quite the bother here (here meaning with we when we were an active team/competitor). For all intent and purposes, we've all had/dealt with "spec" engines, chassis, and bodys in every competition where there existed a governing body. Spec, whether engine, chassis, or body, ain't bad, Sealed is.

Spec gives/allows +/-. There exists loads and loads of performance levels withinin +/-. For the dedicated. For the lazy, best you go to/enjoy "sealed".

Sealed is "finalized on your behalf" by another. IROC is an example.

For so long as a governing body provides a spec based environment, there will be +/-. This is a competitive environment. NASCAR provides this for both competitors and fans. Sealed is fun, spec is fascinating.

When a governing body moves to "sealed", competition moves closer to "driver skills only" (luck/circumstance not withstanding) outcomes. IROC again is an example.

NASCAR is a "spec" based governing body. Let's hope it continues to be.

Give me "spec based" racing over "sealed" racing anyday.

T-Foot, somehow I think you already know this.
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Spec engines SUCK - Spec engines aren't quite the bother here (here meaning with we when we were an active team/competitor). For all intent and purposes, we've all had/dealt with "spec" engines, chassis, and bodys in every competition where there existed a governing body. Spec, whether engine, chassis, or body, ain't bad, Sealed is.

Spec gives/allows +/-. There exists loads and loads of performance levels withinin +/-. For the dedicated. For the lazy, best you go to/enjoy "sealed".

Sealed is "finalized on your behalf" by another. IROC is an example.

For so long as a governing body provides a spec based environment, there will be +/-. This is a competitive environment. NASCAR provides this for both competitors and fans. Sealed is fun, spec is fascinating.

When a governing body moves to "sealed", competition moves closer to "driver skills only" (luck/circumstance not withstanding) outcomes. IROC again is an example.

NASCAR is a "spec" based governing body. Let's hope it continues to be.

Give me "spec based" racing over "sealed" racing anyday.

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Old 09-10-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: CoT and Plate Racing

I think the COT will also cause the leading to have more dragg .allowing the drafting car to get a "run " to pass.

the cars from the past years have gotten so areo, that they didn't leave much to draft off of.

I`am very curious to see how the cot run at daga.
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