[LSC9901]

He's gonna get paid the same no matter what number he runs. I agree that the media is making far more of this than it is worth. Of course it's good for HMS to get all this attention.

[tkj24]

I would rather HMS get all the attention because Jeff Gordon is winning all the "CHASE RACES"

[3fanforever]

I've heard Jr. say 2 or 3 different times he wants to have the majority of input into the design of his car next year. He wants it to be "really cool, something his fans will really love when they see it." So I imagine that includes not only the paint scheme, but the number. And it has to blend with whoever his new sponsor is. I'm sure he has an idea what his ideal number would be, and if he can't get it, what number would come next, and so on. I guess we'll all know when they unveil it.

Whatever it is, I'm looking forward to seeing it put the 24 in the rear view mirror

[Bob Tanner]

I was also listening to SISIUS' "Morning Drive." I understood David Poole to report that Hendrick had asked for a "copyright" on the five numbers.

I doubt this report, as it was reported. My problem is How does one "copyright" a number?" IF a team can copyright a number, doesn't this mean that the teams own the numbers, and not NASCAR, as we have recently been led to believe?

This would mean that an owner's copyrighted number could never be used by another team unless (a) a royalty is paid to the number owner, or (b) the copyright expires (25 years?)

Maybe Poole meant copyright on a number's design, but I can recall absolutely no mention of such a copyright being made.

To sum it up, this report confused the Hell out of me.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I was also listening to SISIUS' "Morning Drive." I understood David Poole to report that Hendrick had asked for a "copyright" on the five numbers.

I doubt this report, as it was reported. My problem is How does one "copyright" a number?" IF a team can copyright a number, doesn't this mean that the teams own the numbers, and not NASCAR, as we have recently been led to believe?

This would mean that an owner's copyrighted number could never be used by another team unless (a) a royalty is paid to the number owner, or (b) the copyright expires (25 years?)

Maybe Poole meant copyright on a number's design, but I can recall absolutely no mention of such a copyright being made.

To sum it up, this report confused the Hell out of me.

I think you have it dead on, with the Style of the number. Didn't Childress have a Trademark on that style "3? I know he had a lawsuit at least filed not long after Sr's death.

[3fanforever]

Rick Hendrick probably looked at what Richard Childress did in 1996 when he copyrighted the #3 design, which means RCR owns that specific stylized #3 used on Dale's cars and merchandising. Maybe that's what Hendrick was talking about and what he wants to do with the 5. Why he didn't say that specifically, I don't know.

[oncea3fan]

my crystal ball says he will drive the #51 mountaindew car

[SpaceCadet]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

I don't care what number he drives. I just want to see him prove his worth. When he gets to HMS big things are expected. I'm not saying he isn't capable but he'll sure make DEI look good if he doesn't perform any better.

I'm so with you on this, LSC. Give him 4,627,928.1 for all I care. I'm just waiting to see how many times that number crosses the finish line first.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I was also listening to SISIUS' "Morning Drive." I understood David Poole to report that Hendrick had asked for a "copyright" on the five numbers.

I doubt this report, as it was reported. My problem is How does one "copyright" a number?" IF a team can copyright a number, doesn't this mean that the teams own the numbers, and not NASCAR, as we have recently been led to believe?

This would mean that an owner's copyrighted number could never be used by another team unless (a) a royalty is paid to the number owner, or (b) the copyright expires (25 years?)

Maybe Poole meant copyright on a number's design, but I can recall absolutely no mention of such a copyright being made.

To sum it up, this report confused the Hell out of me.

I certainly hope they meant the design. Once something is copyrighted doesn't that mean we can no longer use it ??? I can see it now when some teacher in the 1st grade is teaching kids to count. "OK children today we are going to count to ten, 1 - 2 - 4 - 6 - 7 - 9 - 10." And probably some of the numbers in that count will be out of circulation. Will there no longer be $3 bill jokes ???

[3fanforever]

Hot off the press

"Hendrick Motorsports has applied to the United States Patent and Trademark Office for potential use of five numbers next season for Dale Earnhardt, Jr.

The numbers under consideration are #38, #51, #81, #82 and #58. Filing with Patent and Trademark Office does not guarantee NASCAR approval to use any of those numbers, but does prevent an outside party from trademarking the specific font and graphic package used by Hendrick on its racecars, diecast collectibles and souvenirs.

Hendrick filed for the #81 on July 25th, with the most recent filing being for the #38 on August 9th. There have been reports that Hendrick is attempting to strike a deal with Robert Yates Racing for the #38 next season, but my [Dave Moody] sources tell me that the deal is not likely to happen."

Motorsports Soapbox (8-30-2007)

[SpaceCadet]

Originally Posted by 3fanforever

There have been reports that Hendrick is attempting to strike a deal with Robert Yates Racing for the #38 next season, but my [Dave Moody] sources tell me that the deal is not likely to happen."

Motorsports Soapbox (8-30-2007)

Boy, for such a savvy business guy, he's not too good with numbers so far, is he!