[vincesanity82]

Some racers say that drivers create their own luck, but Kyle Busch didn't create his bad luck in the Food City 250 Friday night at Bristol Motor Speedway. NASCAR admitted that it made the wrong call when it ruled that Busch's car hit the orange box on the pit-road commitment line before deciding not to pit.
The official watching the commitment line twice told NASCAR race control that Busch, who had led 24 laps in the race, hit the box, which is considered part of the commitment line at Bristol.
"We didn't have a replay at the time to make that call, so we stood with the decision that was made from the official," Busch Series Director Joe Balash said late Friday night. "We did get to see the replay after the fact and it looks like, after reviewing the replay, that Kyle did not have a commitment-line violation."
Balash said there was nothing NASCAR could do once it went back to green-flag racing and Busch was sent to the rear of the field.
"Sometimes during the race there are calls that an official has to make, and you have to stick with the calls that the officials make from their perspective as they see it," Balash said.
Busch worked from 28th to fourth over the final 70 laps of the race.
"They should have waited a couple of more laps in order to leave the caution out and get it sorted out the right way and do the right thing," Busch said. "But they didn't do that."
Busch said he was trying to decide whether to pit or not and opted at the last second not to pit.
"I wasn't sure if I was going to come or not," he said. "It depended on how many behind us and in front of us were going to come. If the 12 [of Ryan Newman] ... came, I would have ... too."

NASCAR: Replay not available in time to review call

[LSC9901]

Great excuse from NASCAR but it holds about as much water as a thimble with a hole in it. If there was some thought about not making the correct call or if the team was jumping up and down in anger over the call then they needed only to call to ESPN and get a look see. I'm very sure it could have been done in seconds with todays technology.

[wardfan]

how many cautions were after the call against Kyle Busch? With 70 laps left they coundn't have reviewed the call & put him back to whatever his position was at the time the call went against him? Could NASCAR screw up any more lately than if they were doing it on purpose?

[LSC9901]

There was a situation a number of years ago with Dale Sr. and the team complained to NASCAR and after a review he was placed in what would have been the proper position. So yes they could have done it and done it right. They just chose not to.

[jks812]

They showed the replay on TV before they got the green flag. So why couldn't they watch it? Thats a stupid excuse.

[LSC9901]

NASCAR claimed they didn't have access to it before the green flag ?????

[wardfan]

who is broadcasting the signal for the big screen at the track? All they had to do was see the replay on that

[Bob Tanner]

I guess that's as good an excuse as any.

Let's see... Shrub insults NA$CAR at the debut of it's answer to all things, the COT, at Bristol.

Shrub has a "bad call" made against him , once more, at the scene of the crime, Bristol. IF I believed in coincidence (which I absolutely do not), I'd say it was "just one of those things." ...just one of those crazy things; a trip to the moon on gossamer wings, just one of those things...

Taking into consideration NA$CAR's credibility and a history of "taking to the woodshed," drivers who offend their sensitive sensibilities, I believe, in my heart of hearts, that their "mistake" Friday nite is a simple "gott'cha."

But then, I have a habit of having a lack of respect for the administrative side of NA$CAR, so what do I know?

[Jeffrey4318]

Originally Posted by wardfan

how many cautions were after the call against Kyle Busch? With 70 laps left they coundn't have reviewed the call & put him back to whatever his position was at the time the call went against him? Could NASCAR screw up any more lately than if they were doing it on purpose?

Here in lies the problem with this solution. When Kyle Busch came in for the penalty he got four tires and fuel. If Nascar would of right the wrong then they would of sent Kyle Busch out there in fourth place with fresh tire and a tank of gas. That would esseintally given him a free pit stop. While fair to Kyle, very unfair to the rest of the teams. If Kyle would of ran away and won then you have 42 other teams/drivers calling foul on Nascar. So who does Nascar piss off? The one or the many? The only thing they could of done is freezed the field and given everyone a chance to get tires and fuel. I guess they felt that was just too much to do. Especially if teams were out of tires. Even though the call was wrong in the end they did the right thing by not putting him back in 4th. How many times do teams put one past Nascar? Some times it is okay if Nascar puts one past the teams.

[Quality88]

As usual NA$CAR at it's inconsistency best.

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey4318

Here in lies the problem with this solution. When Kyle Busch came in for the penalty he got four tires and fuel. If Nascar would of right the wrong then they would of sent Kyle Busch out there in fourth place with fresh tire and a tank of gas. That would esseintally given him a free pit stop. While fair to Kyle, very unfair to the rest of the teams. If Kyle would of ran away and won then you have 42 other teams/drivers calling foul on Nascar. So who does Nascar piss off? The one or the many? The only thing they could of done is freezed the field and given everyone a chance to get tires and fuel. I guess they felt that was just too much to do. Especially if teams were out of tires. Even though the call was wrong in the end they did the right thing by not putting him back in 4th. How many times do teams put one past Nascar? Some times it is okay if Nascar puts one past the teams.

Yup. In violent agreement with the above. In the immediate household here we have have been and/or are race and soccer officials. The soccer officials (3) are nationally certified. For so long as the official has "suspended" the competition (i.e. yellow flag for racing, stop play whistle for soccer), the opportunity to "place" the competitors for the present "call" exists. Soon as move is made to "play on" (green flag / start play whistle), retro adjustments are not allowed. An obvious reason/example is described by Jeffrey4318.

The seemingly "right" thing to do for KB would have been to continue under yellow until things could be sorted out. Seemingly.

[Jeffrey4318]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

The seemingly "right" thing to do for KB would have been to continue under yellow until things could be sorted out. Seemingly.

Yes but we all know how this would of ended. Robby Gordon anyone? I guess we all know you can't fight Nascar without losing huge in return. KB did the right thing. He didn't jeopordize his Cup title by doing what would have been the right on Friday.

[wardfan]

I'm beginning to think NASCAR has one of those 8 ball fortune tellers. You know the one you shake & turn over and wait for the answer

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey4318

Yes but we all know how this would of ended. Robby Gordon anyone? I guess we all know you can't fight Nascar without losing huge in return. KB did the right thing. He didn't jeopordize his Cup title by doing what would have been the right on Friday.

Well said, Jeffery. It's really difficult to argue against rationality.

I still maintain the bolden part of the above is germane. It was a "gott'cha."