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Old 08-16-2007, 02:43 PM
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Bonus points make urge to win NASCAR races greater

In pre-Chase NASCAR, championships were won by being consistent. Teams and drivers needed top-10 finishes. And, they needed to avoid trouble as DNFs (did not finish) played bigger roles in championship campaigns than did victories. So, conservative racing was often rewarded. That was by design. The original NASCAR scoring system was devised by the late Bob Latford. In an interview with The Star in 2002, he talked about the rationale for the system. "Being a champion is not about how you did in races you won," Latford said. "It's about how you did in races you did not win." That philosophy remained virtually unchallenged until after the 2003 season. That was the year in which Matt Kenseth won the Nextel Cup championship even though he won just one race. -- KC Star

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Old 08-16-2007, 02:59 PM
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Re: Bonus points make urge to win NASCAR races greater

A different point structure encouraging wins would be better than the chase in my opinion.
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Re: Bonus points make urge to win NASCAR races greater

- Being "in" for the long haul.

- Putting the team consistently and repeatedly in a position to win.

- Build equipment that can meet the challenge of the events on the schedule (i.e. - avoid DNF's).

- Consistent effort towards excellence.

It's not/wasn't - bigger than victories. It lead to/resulted in victories and/or championships.

It's the makin's of Yates, Woods, Johnson, Petty (the committed) - you get the drift. To the "today" world - it's seen as conservative racing and those that see it that way move to dismiss or eliminated it/them. And "those" are winning. For those, the chase is a victory.

The "top 35" was intended to recognize and reward the committed. While it may not have appropriately evolved for the current environment (there are "new committeds" that may be more deserving), the protective intent/aim was towards the elder statesmen. "Room" has to be made for the legitmate new committed while attempting to graciously and appreciatively dismissing others.

Now the real question - What firm had the motto - "Progess is our most important product"?
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: Bonus points make urge to win NASCAR races greater

Well, I may be an idiot, but I just don't see how The Chase encourages more wins. Consistency is still the name of the game. Every driver wants to win races. The problem with The Chase is that drivers are "locked out."

I remember a few years ago when Rusty was whining (how unusual) that he had won the most races that year, yet didn't get the Championship. It's pretty simple. Even "I" can explain it to my friends who just don't get it. Let's say a driver wins 5 races during a season, yet finishes outside the top 20 in the remaining races. Then, someone else finishes in the top 5 at every race for the entire season. Who's the Champion? The latter. Pretty simple.
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Re: Bonus points make urge to win NASCAR races greater

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- Being "in" for the long haul.

- Putting the team consistently and repeatedly in a position to win.

- Build equipment that can meet the challenge of the events on the schedule (i.e. - avoid DNF's).

- Consistent effort towards excellence.

It's not/wasn't - bigger than victories. It lead to/resulted in victories and/or championships.

It's the makin's of Yates, Woods, Johnson, Petty (the committed) - you get the drift. To the "today" world - it's seen as conservative racing and those that see it that way move to dismiss or eliminated it/them. And "those" are winning. For those, the chase is a victory.

The "top 35" was intended to recognize and reward the committed. While it may not have appropriately evolved for the current environment (there are "new committeds" that may be more deserving), the protective intent/aim was towards the elder statesmen. "Room" has to be made for the legitmate new committed while attempting to graciously and appreciatively dismissing others.

Now the real question - What firm had the motto - "Progess is our most important product"?
general electric?
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: Bonus points make urge to win NASCAR races greater

well, seems to me everyone in the top 8 in points right now (really not in jeopardy of falling out of the chase) needs to drive to win period at this point ...... yes, i realize they all try and win every week ...... but now, im just thinking those 8 dont really have anything to lose, and with every win they get the 10 bonus points to start the chase

i just think for those 8 its worth to take an extra chance at this point ...... coming in 2nd or 32nd at Michigan this week wont make much difference when the chase starts ....... but the difference between 1st and 2nd is 10 points when the chase starts

hope all that rambling makes sense
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