[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

I hope not. The whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Racing is a passionate, emotional sport. They can't keep fining people for getting hot under the collar, especially if no one is harmed. These kind of incidents happen weekly at the local levels, the guys have their say, and its usually over and forgotten the next week..........and everyone moves on. Na$car is becoming such a media circus, people have come to EXPECT punishment for any kind of non-robotic activity.

one thing for sure: neither Montoya nor Harvick will ever be called robots. a robot won't take risks nor will it exhibit anger or frustration. these two, like them or not, take risks and exhibit both anger and frustration (with different levels of suaveness, to be sure.)

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

one thing for sure: neither Montoya nor Harvick will ever be called robots. a robot won't take risks nor will it exhibit anger or frustration. these two, like them or not, take risks and exhibit both anger and frustration (with different levels of suaveness, to be sure.)

I wholeheartedly agree Duck. My point was, Na$car is so bent on sanitizing the sport, its almost laughable.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

I hope not. The whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Racing is a passionate, emotional sport. They can't keep fining people for getting hot under the collar, especially if no one is harmed. These kind of incidents happen weekly at the local levels, the guys have their say, and its usually over and forgotten the next week..........and everyone moves on. Na$car is becoming such a media circus, people have come to EXPECT punishment for any kind of non-robotic activity.

I'm with ya! God forbid they have some emotion. I thought it was great, and i was just listening on the Radio!

Although from some of the comments I heard on Sirius today, it seems they are just as mad. Good, Bristol is coming up, and I'm gonna be there! Maybe there will be some excitement there, what do ya think!?

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Phils20

I'm with ya! God forbid they have some emotion. I thought it was great, and i was just listening on the Radio!

Although from some of the comments I heard on Sirius today, it seems they are just as mad. Good, Bristol is coming up, and I'm gonna be there! Maybe there will be some excitement there, what do ya think!?

quit gloating. as my ex mother-in-law used to say: "I'm so envious I could just spit!"

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

quit gloating. as my ex mother-in-law used to say: "I'm so envious I could just spit!"

Aw man, I'm not gloating, I'm just happy as hell!

It would be very cool to see a moment that folks will talk about for years! I live 10 miles from Dover, and other than Jr's win after 9/11, not many races there are memorable! I just hope to see a good one!

And Harvick/Montoya might give us that!

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Phils20

Aw man, I'm not gloating, I'm just happy as hell!

It would be very cool to see a moment that folks will talk about for years! I live 10 miles from Dover, and other than Jr's win after 9/11, not many races there are memorable! I just hope to see a good one!

And Harvick/Montoya might give us that!

Na! Gloat all you want, Phil. Your enthusiasm is endearing and infectious.

Have a great time!








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[Phils20]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Na! Gloat all you want, Phil. Your enthusiasm is endearing and infectious.

Have a great time!










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Thanks, I plan on it! I'll also be taking lots of pics!

I'll post my Photobucket link when I get back, If I'm awake.

And I'm still hoping for some fireworks from these two. I bet they both race like good little boys at (yawn) Michagan, but will mix it up for sure at that high banked half mile!

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Phils20

Thanks, I plan on it! I'll also be taking lots of pics!

I'll post my Photobucket link when I get back, If I'm awake.

And I'm still hoping for some fireworks from these two. I bet they both race like good little boys at (yawn) Michagan, but will mix it up for sure at that high banked half mile!

Yup, Michigan is a big snooze. But Bristol ... YEEEE HA!!

Actually, I don't know how any driver can master that track.

Once again, I find myself off topic! Jeeez!

[harvick29]

Originally Posted by bears9

I like both dudes but Harvick was way out of line and Montoya should kicked his "Butt"

dude first of all how was kevin out of line.second of all harvick would stomp that cat.juan needs to realize hes not in f1 his success prior to nascar means nothing he is a rookie in this series and should be treated like one.you cant come over here acting like you dont have to earn the respect of your competitors.listen to the way he talks to his crew chief this guy thinks everyone should bow down to the great juan pablo montoya.this cat is losing repect every race.not to mention harvick took montoya under his wing when juan first come over.to be wrecked at daytona then at watkins when he had a shot at the win.not to mention who didnt see that happing from a mile away.when the caution came out i told my old lady darn it montoya is right behind harvick for the restart i knew montoya was goin to push the issue.he doesnt understand the big picture.there was no need for such a big block like that on a restart going in to turn 1 where there had been trouble all day.he needs to wise up to stock car racing start clinching top 10s.to me montoya was the one out of line(not the first time) this had nothing to do with the bump from truex it was a bone head move on montoyas part to push the issue ending the day for some good cars.cats like that need to be confronted harvick had the right to let the rookie no whats up.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by harvick29

dude first of all how was kevin out of line.second of all harvick would stomp that cat.juan needs to realize hes not in f1 his success prior to nascar means nothing he is a rookie in this series and should be treated like one.you cant come over here acting like you dont have to earn the respect of your competitors.listen to the way he talks to his crew chief this guy thinks everyone should bow down to the great juan pablo montoya.this cat is losing repect every race.not to mention harvick took montoya under his wing when juan first come over.to be wrecked at daytona then at watkins when he had a shot at the win.not to mention who didnt see that happing from a mile away.when the caution came out i told my old lady darn it montoya is right behind harvick for the restart i knew montoya was goin to push the issue.he doesnt understand the big picture.there was no need for such a big block like that on a restart going in to turn 1 where there had been trouble all day.he needs to wise up to stock car racing start clinching top 10s.to me montoya was the one out of line(not the first time) this had nothing to do with the bump from truex it was a bone head move on montoyas part to push the issue ending the day for some good cars.cats like that need to be confronted harvick had the right to let the rookie no whats up.

yeah, youre not biased

[LSC9901]

I certainly don't want to get in between you two "dudes" in your efforts to battle the wits out of one another. I don't care a lot for either driver. Oddly enough both drivers have the ability to win without making bonehead moves. I do think Juan is making more foolish moves but on one part of this issue Kevin was way out of line. He had no reason to pull his wrecked car in front of Juan's car. Granted Juan's was just a rolling wreck anyway but Harvick would have been better of, attitude wise, to stay in his car and leave the car right where it stopped.

Unfortunately it is real easy to look back and admit that "I should have done this or that" but that seldom happens. Makes for great TV if nothing else.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by harvick29

dude first of all how was kevin out of line.second of all harvick would stomp that cat.

Harvick was out of line by getting out of his car and coming towards Montoya.
Why is it everyone seems to think Harvick is a badass, because of his mouth??? I havent seem him win any Ultimate Fighter contests lately. Supposedly JPM is versed in Kung Fu, and if so, would most likely make Chop Suey out of Kevin. If you check out the vids, Harvick always plays the tough guy when officials or crew members are there to hold him back. I dont think he knew how to react when Montoya stood up to him, so he just twiddled with his driving suit straps. JPM fears nobody.

[Phils20]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

Harvick was out of line by getting out of his car and coming towards Montoya.
Why is it everyone seems to think Harvick is a badass, because of his mouth??? I havent seem him win any Ultimate Fighter contests lately. Supposedly JPM is versed in Kung Fu, and if so, would most likely make Chop Suey out of Kevin. If you check out the vids, Harvick always plays the tough guy when officials or crew members are there to hold him back. I dont think he knew how to react when Montoya stood up to him, so he just twiddled with his driving suit straps. JPM fears nobody.

Ya know, I like Harvick, but I kind of saw it the same way. Maybe not with him only running his mouth when there are officials there, but he did seem a bit taken aback by JPM's anger!!!

And he was fiddling with the suit straps! I thought it was just me!

[jks812]

My daughter said the same thing....lol. She said Kevin didn't seem to want to do alot but talk until the officials got over there. So I watched the video again and I agree.
If when Kevin got his car going he had went on up the track or pulled over by Burton and stayed in his car, none of it would have happened.

[harvick29]

Originally Posted by simple simon

yeah, youre not biased

how was what i said biased?because of my screen name?no one cut harvick any slack when he was a rookie making bone head moves.i was just calling how ive been seeing it.what harvick did is what i would have done except i would have took my hans off and pounded montoya while all you sat in your car like some chumps.some times you just have to stand up for yourselves.the only one out of line was montoyas car on the race track.come on fellas im disappointed where are the men at.everyone talks about the old days.then you get a little taste and you all run and hide all scared.o my god i cant believe that harvick and how out of line he was.

by the way i met harvick today in jackson michigan at auto zone on my 29th birthday.a day i will never forget. one real cool cat.