[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by tkj24

I agree Nascar should have never started the field with the cars not where they wanted them. Were they afriad to go down and confront Robby?

I also agree. In 25 years of following the sport, I have never seen Na$car throw a green, knowing the cars were not in the correct order.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by wardfan

well at least we all agree that NASCAR screwed up.

That was always what I believe the bottom line to be.

If the teacher can't have absolute control in the classroom, you have anarchy. That, IMNSVHO, was exactly what we had in the final laps of yesterday's Cup Lite race. From a casual fan's sperspective it was entertaining. From my personal sperspective, the finish smelled like a Porta-Potty in the middle of August.

[Smoke842]

I thought I heard that Nascar said just a few weeks ago that they wouldn't suspend a driver. That was when the Hendrick teams cheated. I can't believe that the Nascar mafia suspended Robby. Have him finish 43rd and send him to the truck but suspend him? Rough driving warrants suspension but not this, in my opinion. This is ridiculous and I am pissed.

I like what Robby said in his intervew a few minutes ago, that the reason he didn't go to 12th or whatever position was that he didn't agree with the call.

Getting really sick of Nascar. I've always thought that they have treated Robby differently than, say the 24 or the 8 and now this confirms it.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Smoke842

I like what Robby said in his intervew a few minutes ago, that the reason he didn't go to 12th or whatever position was that he didn't agree with the call.

Agree or not ... NASCAR is the ruling body. I certainly won't and can't defend them but I'm guessing that they said if you don't like the rules ... go home.

[Bob Tanner]

I'm having a bit of problem agreeing with NASCAR in suspending a driver from one series for infractions in another.

I believe, down to the very depths of my cynical little heart, that IF a big-name Cup raider, like Flipper or Harvick (now that he's a major NA$CAR commodity) or Jeff Burton were to have done EXACTLY what Robby did yesterday, they would still be starting today's race, and not having P.J. Jones fill in for them.

NASCAR is on its usual path, in the area of credibility; one step forward and two back.

[3fanforever]

I agree NASCAR blew this one for two reasons.
1. for restarting the race with a car out of order, and
2. for racing in Canada in the first place.

I can't quite get a grip on that decision

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by 3fanforever

I agree NASCAR blew this one for two reasons.
1. for restarting the race with a car out of order, and
2. for racing in Canada in the first place.

I can't quite get a grip on that decision

They've raced in Canada before. I think I'd have rather seen them run Mosport in Ontario and not Circuit Villeneuve in Montreal. The Montreal track was definitely NOT suited to full bodied stock cars. Too technical, too narrow and too hard on brakes.

The decision? It was based on who committed the crime and NOT the severity of the crime itself.

[kcoruol]

I thought these cars had GPS trackers and timers on them, that along with film footage, NASCAR could have done some sort of computerized replay that would show the line up at the time of the caution. Drive in circles or line everyone up on pit row.

Robby Gordon I think was in the right until he refused to obey NASCAR.

Had he gone back to 13th, he could have contested the ruling.

I would imagine anyway.

[3fanforever]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

They've raced in Canada before. I think I'd have rather seen them run Mosport in Ontario and not Circuit Villeneuve in Montreal. The Montreal track was definitely NOT suited to full bodied stock cars. Too technical, too narrow and too hard on brakes.

The decision? It was based on who committed the crime and NOT the severity of the crime itself.

Yep, I should have said Montreal instead of Canada. The decision to race there baffled me because I always thought the people of Quebec didn't like anything associated with America, or anywhere else for that matter.

[Jeffrey4318]

Originally Posted by kcoruol

Had he gone back to 13th, he could have contested the ruling.

I think we can all agree if he had done this it wouldn't of been such a big deal. Some might think that would be a good thing, but I don't. Because Robby stayed out and stood up to Nascar more people today know what a hoax NASCAR is. Trust me Helton and the gang know they did wrong. They know that everyday more and more of the fan base are on to them. Hopefully after yesterday we will move towards a more fair, right, honest, and logical Nascar. Ratings haven't been moving up as fast as they use to. I wonder why? Thank you Robby for calling out Nascar. Maybe just maybe they will be a little more honest in the future.

[Smoke842]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I'm having a bit of problem agreeing with NASCAR in suspending a driver from one series for infractions in another.

I believe, down to the very depths of my cynical little heart, that IF a big-name Cup raider, like Flipper or Harvick (now that he's a major NA$CAR commodity) or Jeff Burton were to have done EXACTLY what Robby did yesterday, they would still be starting today's race, and not having P.J. Jones fill in for them.

NASCAR is on its usual path, in the area of credibility; one step forward and two back.

Yessssss, Mr. Bob Tanner. This might be the beginning of the end for me watching Nascar. I like what you said too Jeffrey. But I am a big Robby fan so if it was the 24 I might feel different.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by Smoke842

Yessssss, Mr. Bob Tanner. This might be the beginning of the end for me watching Nascar. I like what you said too Jeffrey. But I am a big Robby fan so if it was the 24 I might feel different.

I would still feel the same way if it had been Jeff or Jimmie instead of Robby. It's not who it was, but how it was done.