[Racer Duck]

top 35 not good .. i.e., BAD!

when a "star" doesn't make a race, too bad. Tiger Woods doesn't make the cut every time either. And I'd venture he's more a "star" than all but maybe one current driver. we don't need prima donnas who are guaranteed a cut of the gate like in boxing. this is racing. the fastest on that given day race. what's so hard about that?

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

top 35 not good .. i.e., BAD!

when a "star" doesn't make a race, too bad. Tiger Woods doesn't make the cut every time either. And I'd venture he's more a "star" than all but maybe one current driver. we don't need prima donnas who are guaranteed a cut of the gate like in boxing. this is racing. the fastest on that given day race. what's so hard about that?

Nothing so hard about it Ducky. It all makes sense to the mere mortal mind but when was the last time you saw Tiger wearing a nice red Bud shirt or his Home Depot shirt ??? I think the sponsors may have a wee bit of input about the chosen 35.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Nothing so hard about it Ducky. It all makes sense to the mere mortal mind but when was the last time you saw Tiger wearing a nice red Bud shirt or his Home Depot shirt ??? I think the sponsors may have a wee bit of input about the chosen 35.

but they're giving their input to the wrong organization. it needs to go to the team who didn't make the race, not the organizers of the race. that smacks of outright bribery.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

but they're giving their input to the wrong organization. it needs to go to the team who didn't make the race, not the organizers of the race. that smacks of outright bribery.

very good point.... what about all those underling teams that are havin trouble gettin into the dance, ask them.

[OrionBen]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Nothing so hard about it Ducky. It all makes sense to the mere mortal mind but when was the last time you saw Tiger wearing a nice red Bud shirt or his Home Depot shirt ???.

I don't know, but when I watch Tiger it's NIKE everywhere. Golf and Racing are probably the closest sports in organisation, purse, sponsorship, championship has 2 sports can be.

But Duck is right on the fact that if Tiger miss the cut (Qualification), he's out.

As I said earlier, I accept the top 35. But it doesn't mean I would keep it if I were to become Nascar president

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

but they're giving their input to the wrong organization. it needs to go to the team who didn't make the race, not the organizers of the race. that smacks of outright bribery.

methinks my quoted statement might be misread or misunderstood so: try #2

the sponsor's input needs to go to the team that took their money but didn't make the race, not the organizers of the race.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

methinks my quoted statement might be misread or misunderstood so: try #2

the sponsor's input needs to go to the team that took their money but didn't make the race, not the organizers of the race.

I understood. I just elaborated a little further apon it.

[Racer Duck]

and that brings me to this thought.

the Chosen 35 rule is really to protect the owners from the sponsors. if the rule didn't exist, the sponsors would be holding the owners' feet to the fire about making the race. and it would be the owners who would be taking the heat from the fans, press and anyone that wanted to contribute their 2 cents.

so what the owners did was find someone else to take their heat: and NASCAR is so dumb, they accepted!

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by OrionBen

I don't know, but when I watch Tiger it's NIKE everywhere. Golf and Racing are probably the closest sports in organisation, purse, sponsorship, championship has 2 sports can be.

But Duck is right on the fact that if Tiger miss the cut (Qualification), he's out.

As I said earlier, I accept the top 35. But it doesn't mean I would keep it if I were to become Nascar president

was that a campaign speech? if so, what else ya got planned?

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

but they're giving their input to the wrong organization. it needs to go to the team who didn't make the race, not the organizers of the race. that smacks of outright bribery.

...I agree but it's NEVER been NASCAR's (or NA$CAR's) way of doing things. This all started when that paragon of all thing successful in NASCAR got into the game in 1972. Every race track I know of, with the exception of the Brickyard, pays appearance money for big names. NASCAR, and the tracks it ran at have been no exception.

From Forty Years of Stock Car Racing-Modern Era 1972-1989 v.4 Fielden; 1997:
The Sponsor Scramble
Sponsorship became increasingly important for the teams. The factories had all but gotten out of racing in 1971, which left meny former heavily financed teams scrapping for operating dollars.
NASCAR inaugarated up front appearance money for the top teams as an added incentive to make all the races. It was the forerunner of the "Winner's Circle Program" which was to follow four years later. In previous years all appearance money was paid under the table.
Although there were no detailed criteria accompanying the announcement, NASCAR said four top teams -- of different makes of cars -- would receive extra money each time they entered a race. The four teams would be Petty Enterprises (Plymouth), the Richard Howadr/Junior Johnson unit (Chevrolet), Nord Krauskopf's (Dodge) team, and Bud Moore (Ford) who was planning to re-enter NASCAR after a successful stint on the SCCA trans Am circuit."

IRT NA$CAR, the more things change, the more they remain the same.

[tkj24]

I remember the first time Richard Petty didn't make the race at Bristol. It was very sad to be there and know my driver wouldn't be in the field. After a while you get used to it though. LOL