[oncea3fan]

they should realign the schedule to be

superspeedway 2+ miles
intermedite 1-2 miles
short track under a mile
road course
then back to super speedways, this would give a good even mix or tracks, also limit of 2 races a season per track, so you wouldn't have 3-4 daytonas, or bristols. and a 100k seating min.
and we could get rid of some of the cookie cutter tracks.

keep all races in northamerica, weather canada or mexico

[OrionBen]

Originally Posted by I Flip For Carl

No ,because I don't like road course's . Never have ,never will. They are a real bore .A snooze fest

Don't tell me Pocono is a non-snooze fest. But I agree that some road-circuit a prone to bring snooze fest, but not all of them Montreal as passing spot. Indy road circuit is a snooze fest on the other end.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by OrionBen

Don't tell me Pocono is a non-snooze fest. But I agree that some road-circuit a prone to bring snooze fest, but not all of them Montreal as passing spot. Indy road circuit is a snooze fest on the other end.

Pocono needs to be cut back to 300 miles and/or lose one race altogether.

The problem with almost all the road courses are that they were designed for Indy and F1-type cars. They just aren't naturally suited for full bodied stock cars.

If NASCAR is going to run road races I'd like to see someone start from scratch and design a track specifically for stock cars. What I think I'd love to see is a wide road course with at least one high banked turn, like they used to have a Monza. Imagine how that Montreal race would have looked if, at the end of the long straight where they had the hairpin, they utilized a tight 180 degree turn with banking like Darlington or Bristol?

[oncea3fan]

yes a track with more then one or 2 places to pass, 2 spots on a oval is ok cause the laps are faster,
a wide track with several medium and high banked turn would be great,

hey bob if you got an extra 100mil I know where I can borrow and buldozer

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

yes a track with more then one or 2 places to pass, 2 spots on a oval is ok cause the laps are faster,
a wide track with several medium and high banked turn would be great,

hey bob if you got an extra 100mil I know where I can borrow and buldozer

Bob, have you been holding out on us?

[harvick29]

Originally Posted by I Flip For Carl

No ,because I don't like road course's . Never have ,never will. They are a real bore .A snooze fest

wow it really surprises me how many people say that.i happen to love them matter of fact i think there should be one in the chase.get rid of texas bring back darlington get rid of lowes add any road course.that way to be the champion you have to be able to drive flat track short track superspeedways and road course.not just cookie cutter mile and half tracks.i thought infinion was exciting! road courses have short track characteristics to them lots of bumpin and grindin cause its hard as hell to make a pass.lots of smoke 29 comin through.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by OrionBen

Don't tell me Pocono is a non-snooze fest. But I agree that some road-circuit a prone to bring snooze fest, but not all of them Montreal as passing spot. Indy road circuit is a snooze fest on the other end.

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[OrionBen]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

yes a track with more then one or 2 places to pass, 2 spots on a oval is ok cause the laps are faster,
a wide track with several medium and high banked turn would be great,

hey bob if you got an extra 100mil I know where I can borrow and buldozer

Thing is if you start having banked corner, then you need a wall because of the banking, then it needs to be right side wall, then you turn left, then you have an oval

But yes, a race track with one banked corner would be nice

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by OrionBen

Thing is if you start having banked corner, then you need a wall because of the banking, then it needs to be right side wall, then you turn left, then you have an oval

But yes, a race track with one banked corner would be nice

Nurburgring .. the NASCAR needs a Nurburgring: it has banked corners, off camber corners, hills, valleys, hairpins and a llllooooooonnnnnnnnnggggggg straight all tucked into 24.4km (15.16 mile) course that is widely considered the toughest and most demanding purpose-built race track in the world. and here's the big seller: you can easily get 2 million seats around the track and half a million RV's in the infield!

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

Nurburgring .. the NASCAR needs a Nurburgring: it has banked corners, off camber corners, hills, valleys, hairpins and a llllooooooonnnnnnnnnggggggg straight all tucked into 24.4km (15.16 mile) course that is widely considered the toughest and most demanding purpose-built race track in the world. and here's the big seller: you can easily get 2 million seats around the track and half a million RV's in the infield!

Ah yes, the old Nurburging track. I was just looking for a T2 Monza type turn but you took it to it's extreme...

As long as we're going extreme, here's one I'd love to see them do. Put the Pikes Peak Hill climb on the schedule and make a points event out of it. That would satisfy the dirt track fans plus, after this week, the idea of Robby Gordon plunging over a 500-foot drop off would certainly fill the stands.

Or, maybe they could revive the old Pan American Road race. A 2100 mile race using the Mexican "highways," from Juarez to Mexico City. That should satisfy Brian's drive to become an International player in racing?

[Marc17]

Originally Posted by bears9

They shouldn't dump the Glen. But they should have a race in Montreal and dump the second Pocono race.

I agree. With your opinion.

[lilsexy08]

It's nice for Canada for those who like Nascar instead of driving to the nearest US track, but I think Busch Series is stretching things a bit like with Mexico.

[jks812]

I think they should take a cup race to Canada. I liked that track.

[DOF_power]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Pocono needs to be cut back to 300 miles and/or lose one race altogether.

The problem with almost all the road courses are that they were designed for Indy and F1-type cars. They just aren't naturally suited for full bodied stock cars.

If NASCAR is going to run road races I'd like to see someone start from scratch and design a track specifically for stock cars. What I think I'd love to see is a wide road course with at least one high banked turn, like they used to have a Monza. Imagine how that Montreal race would have looked if, at the end of the long straight where they had the hairpin, they utilized a tight 180 degree turn with banking like Darlington or Bristol?

A NASCAR spec car 1.0 or 2.0 is far better suited for road courses vs. an Indy (oval racer) or modern F1 single seaters (custom track racers).
F1 gave up on road courses with the abandoning of old Ring, and then the super modification of Spa and Hockenheim (Tilke be damed for eternity for this).

NASCAR needs more diversity, road courses, city circuits, dirt tracks, after all, those boys were NOT smuggling moonshine on ovals.

Oh yeah, and bring back the stock cars.

[MCdricas]

I think Canada is a great place for Nascar. They need to get there mind off hockey just a tad.