[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Team Yates

To bad several years ago, that Yates and Woods didn't join forces, who knows what could have been!!
Please excuse me for my now low opinion of Sadler!! I understand that "he did what he had to do" but he didn't need to lie through his teeth about it!! D.J. also left but he was a man about it and said he was leaving. So, I still have my respect for D.J.,wasn't happy about it, but he didn't lie!! He isn't doing very well either, but I still have respect for him. I'm just glad that I never invested to much money on Sadler stuff!! He left me with a bad taste!!

I'm not a souvenir type of person so I don't really care (from a financial viewpoint) when a driver jumps ship. I can say I'm glad I have never invested money in any driver's "stuff". I do have some that was given as gifts, however. maybe that's why I only have a couple favorites, and find I can root for almost any driver on any given day.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

I'm not a souvenir type of person so I don't really care (from a financial viewpoint) when a driver jumps ship. I can say I'm glad I have never invested money in any driver's "stuff". I do have some that was given as gifts, however. maybe that's why I only have a couple favorites, and find I can root for almost any driver on any given day.

I do have alot of Nascar stuff. But I have all different drivers, not just favorites.
I really wish Kasey and Sadler would start improving. I like em both.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by jks812

I do have alot of Nascar stuff. But I have all different drivers, not just favorites.
I really wish Kasey and Sadler would start improving. I like em both.

me too.....

[harvick29]

Originally Posted by bears9

After having high expectations for Kasey Kahne and Elliot Sadler I am disappointed with the drivers from Evernham Motorsports. Elliott Sadler is 23rd in the points and Kasey Kahne is 28th. I thought they would both make the chase and Kahne would contend to win it all. Then there is Scott Riggs he's 37th in points and can't seem to make any races. So what is wrong with Evernham Motor Sports.

IM NOT 2 SURPRISED HERE.last year the 19 and 10 car didnt run very well most of the year.and kasey barely made the chase.ya kasey won 6 races but they were all mile and a half cookie cutters.its not like he was tearin it up everywhere they went short tracks flat tracks roadcourses ect. their success last year was one domentional.he had just as many dnfs as he did wins if not more.i think kasey is a good driver he just puts himself in alot of bad positions.thats why im not to surprised.GO 29

[tkj24]

Originally Posted by bears9

After having high expectations for Kasey Kahne and Elliot Sadler I am disappointed with the drivers from Evernham Motorsports. Elliott Sadler is 23rd in the points and Kasey Kahne is 28th. I thought they would both make the chase and Kahne would contend to win it all. Then there is Scott Riggs he's 37th in points and can't seem to make any races. So what is wrong with Evernham Motor Sports.

Here is the problem:

[jks812]

Originally Posted by tkj24

Here is the problem:

Wouldn't show me the pic. But I believe it would be all of em, Sadler, Kahne and Evernham.

[King43STP]

Remember the Evernham-Crocker thing last year? I think this should answer all questions about the drivers.


Evernham Completes Sale of Team to Canadiens Owner



Aug 6, 11:59 AM (ET)

By JENNA FRYERCHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -Ray Evernham completed the sale of his NASCAR team Monday to Montreal Canadiens owner George Gillett Jr., ending nearly six months of negotiations to bring on a partner.
Gillett becomes the majority owner of the team, which will now be called Gillett Evernham Motorsports. Evernham, who won three championships as a crew chief, still has an ownership stake of the team he launched in 2001. But he will concentrate on competition issues going forward and allow Gillett to handle the business-side of racing.
"With the business acumen of the Gillett family and its sports brands, we've greatly expanded our reach," said Evernham, who will keep the title as chief executive officer. "It certainly allows us to capitalize on our strengths and position GEM for long-term success both on and off the track."
Evernham fields three Nextel Cup teams - one is in partnership with Valvoline - a Busch Series team and a part-time ARCA team.
In addition to the Canadiens, Gillett is a co-owner of Liverpool of the English Premier League. His other business interests include the Bell Centre, where the Canadiens play, and Gillett Entertainment Group, which produces some 700 sporting and entertainment events in numerous venues throughout Canada and the U.S.
"Racing is in my blood," Gillett said. "It's not often you get to partner with a leader with Ray's reputation, talent and championship legacy."
More and more NASCAR owners are taking on partners or merging with existing teams to remain competitive in one of the ultra-expensive sport of racing.
Jack Roush opened the season by merging his organization with Boston Red Sox owner John Henry to form Roush Fenway Racing.
More recently, land developer Bobby Ginn merged his fledgling team with Dale Earnhardt Inc. And Robert Yates Racing last week partnered with open-wheel powerhouse Newman/Haas/Lanigan.

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A while back Ray leaked out info to this effect. Hopefully by getting back in the nitty gritty of things he can produce some better stats.

[jks812]

I'm not gonna put the blame on Crocker. She probably didn't tell Ray to neglect his business, he's a big boy and I feel like he done that on his own. I'm sure she didn't tell Sadler to be just an okay driver all this time, he was doing that before he got there. And I'm sure she didn't tell Kasey, well heck I don't know what his problem is. I think Kasey's problem may come from the way Ray has been, or hasn't been, taking care of his business.

[bob101]

Whats wrong with Everham Drivers?

Apparently it was lack of money according to Ray Everham

[King43STP]

Originally Posted by jks812

I'm not gonna put the blame on Crocker. She probably didn't tell Ray to neglect his business, he's a big boy and I feel like he done that on his own. I'm sure she didn't tell Sadler to be just an okay driver all this time, he was doing that before he got there. And I'm sure she didn't tell Kasey, well heck I don't know what his problem is. I think Kasey's problem may come from the way Ray has been, or hasn't been, taking care of his business.

I think you got the wrong idea about what was said in the article, and what I said. The point here is that Ray was distracted from his business and that's the reason the teams are in the shape they're in. Not Crocker, not Gillett, not the drivers, just Ray and only Ray.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by King43STP

I think you got the wrong idea about what was said in the article, and what I said. The point here is that Ray was distracted from his business and that's the reason the teams are in the shape they're in. Not Crocker, not Gillett, not the drivers, just Ray and only Ray.

Oh ok. Sorry if I misunderstood. But alot of other people want to blame her.

[tkj24]

Originally Posted by jks812

Wouldn't show me the pic. But I believe it would be all of em, Sadler, Kahne and Evernham.

Actually it was a picture of Erin Crocker. Sorry don't know what happened to the picture.

[jks812]

Oh okay. Could be my security on my puter.

[bears9]

Originally Posted by tkj24

Actually it was a picture of Erin Crocker. Sorry don't know what happened to the picture.

That is what Everham should do let her race