[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

yeah, and Hammond has never been wrong .. well maybe except for that time... oh yeah, that one too.... ok so sometimes he's never been wrong...

Tell us how you really feel Ducky.

[Jeffrey4318]

If Gibbs starts a new team for Busch then so be it, but I have a funny feeling Busch is going to unseat JJ. That makes me angry Gibbs doesn't want to see me angry.

Okay on a serious note I don't think I really want to cheer for JGR anymore. J.D. has done nothing but screw up the team. Kicks Bobby out and now he is going to do the same with JJ. JJ is only in his second year in cup and he is already getting the shape up or ship out talk. Denny Hamlin is the worst thing to ever happen to JJ. If he wasn't so damn good then JJ's expectations wouldn't be so high and he would have time to grow.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Tell us how you really feel Ducky.

ehh, some days are better than others .. but basically .. to quote Tony the Tiger: "GREAT!"

oh, do you mean about Hambone? I try not to think about him at all. nor his driver.

[PenelopePitStop]

I'm so confused ...

Gibbs takes Kyle ... DEI merges with Ginn ... Mark drives for who? Merger means how many drivers? Who drives for who? I saw a report on Trackside today, but couldn't follow it.

Man, this season has to be the most confusing I've seen in over 20 years! Gone are the days when I didn't follow, or care to follow, this team, owner, sponsor stuff.

GTG has made me insane!





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[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

I'm so confused ...

Gibbs takes Kyle ... DEI merges with Ginn ... Mark drives for who? Merger means how many drivers? Who drives for who? I saw a report on Trackside today, but couldn't follow it.

Man, this season has to be the most confusing I've seen in over 20 years! Gone are the days when I didn't follow, or care to follow, this team, owner, sponsor stuff.

GTG has made me insane!





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snap out of it! it's not GTG that's the problem.

take a deep breath, hug your puppy and kitty. take another deep breath. put your feet up....

ok, very slowly....

Kyle hasn't gone anywhere, yet. nor said what his destination is. anything else is idle speculation.

DEI merged their engine development with RCR so they both benefit from a combined effort.

Ginn needed financial help so he sold his teams to DEI .. except for the #14 'cause DEI already had 3 cup teams. the #13 owner points went to #15 because Ginn assumed partial ownership (per NASCAR rules)

so now the 4 DEI CUP drivers are:
#1 - Martin Truex, Jr.
#01 - Mark Martin & Aric Almirola
#8 - Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
#15 - Paul Menard

what happened to the #14? it just went away .. no longer exists. Joe Nemechek is looking for a ride. So is Sterling Marlin

what about Regan Smith? he's gonna be driving CTS for DEI/Ginn until some team wants to "promote" him.

the other development drivers under contract to DEI and Ginn keep doing what they were doing.

at some time in the near future DEI will pack up and move down the road into Ginn's much bigger shop and turn the "Garage-mahal" into a museum.

pretty quickly (like after Indy) Ginn's engine contract with HMS won't be worth the paper it's written on and the ex-Ginn teams will begin using DEI/RCR power.

silly season isn't over by a long shot .. stressing over it will only upset you for no reason. just chill 'till it's over. then we'll collectively hoist our mugs and salute the incompetent dunderheads that allowed this mess to happen in the first place (but it won't be a very nice salute...) whatever you do, don't get your favorite driver's number tatooed anywhere .. it's sure to change and tatoo removal is expensive and not attractive.

any questions?

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

snap out of it! it's not GTG that's the problem.

take a deep breath, hug your puppy and kitty. take another deep breath. put your feet up....

ok, very slowly....

Kyle hasn't gone anywhere, yet. nor said what his destination is. anything else is idle speculation.

DEI merged their engine development with RCR so they both benefit from a combined effort.

Ginn needed financial help so he sold his teams to DEI .. except for the #14 'cause DEI already had 3 cup teams. the #13 owner points went to #15 because Ginn assumed partial ownership (per NASCAR rules)

so now the 4 DEI CUP drivers are:
#1 - Martin Truex, Jr.
#01 - Mark Martin & Aric Almirola
#8 - Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
#15 - Paul Menard

what happened to the #14? it just went away .. no longer exists. Joe Nemechek is looking for a ride. So is Sterling Marlin

what about Regan Smith? he's gonna be driving CTS for DEI/Ginn until some team wants to "promote" him.

the other development drivers under contract to DEI and Ginn keep doing what they were doing.

at some time in the near future DEI will pack up and move down the road into Ginn's much bigger shop and turn the "Garage-mahal" into a museum.

pretty quickly (like after Indy) Ginn's engine contract with HMS won't be worth the paper it's written on and the ex-Ginn teams will begin using DEI/RCR power.

silly season isn't over by a long shot .. stressing over it will only upset you for no reason. just chill 'till it's over. then we'll collectively hoist our mugs and salute the incompetent dunderheads that allowed this mess to happen in the first place (but it won't be a very nice salute...) whatever you do, don't get your favorite driver's number tatooed anywhere .. it's sure to change and tatoo removal is expensive and not attractive.

any questions?

Eeek! Thanks for the "very slowly".

I understood the RCR/DEI engine development. That really didn't impact the drivers from my perspective. What threw me off was Mark Martin to DEI. I never heard of Ginn until GTG, but that doesn't say much. Like I said, I never really paid much attention to owners and the like.

I did hear Max "something or other" from DEI on Trackside mention something about moving the shop.

Funny you mention a tattoo of a favorite driver. Do you remember that hilarious Jr. commercial a couple of years ago where all his fans had the number 8 everywhere? Painted on the garage, carved into shrubs, grannies knitting afghans, etc. Then Dale said he was changing his number to something else? How ironic is that?

Thanks for the explanation. It's a bit clearer now.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Eeek! Thanks for the "very slowly".

I understood the RCR/DEI engine development. That really didn't impact the drivers from my perspective. What threw me off was Mark Martin to DEI. I never heard of Ginn until GTG, but that doesn't say much. Like I said, I never really paid much attention to owners and the like.

I did hear Max "something or other" from DEI on Trackside mention something about moving the shop.

Funny you mention a tattoo of a favorite driver. Do you remember that hilarious Jr. commercial a couple of years ago where all his fans had the number 8 everywhere? Painted on the garage, carved into shrubs, grannies knitting afghans, etc. Then Dale said he was changing his number to something else? How ironic is that?

Thanks for the explanation. It's a bit clearer now.

yeah, when Ginn sold the team the driver contract went with it .. I think Mark is almost as confused as you are/were. But, I understand he's gonna be in charge of driver development so that's a good thing.

Max Siegel - DEI's President or whatever his title is. there was an article I read earlier today that explains who he is and where he came from and that though he's black he has yet to experience racial prejudice in NASCAR and that he's got some incredible credentials as an executive.

that commercial was in my mind as I was typing the tatoo thing. it's one of my favorites.

between my drooping eyelids and growing numbers of typing errors (I don't think they're connected .. but then thinking is a little harder when the brain is frazzled so I wouldn't go by anything I say) it's probably best I wander off to bed before I have to deny something I said that I didn't know I was saying...

no prob .. explanation is my middle name

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

silly season isn't over by a long shot .. stressing over it will only upset you for no reason. just chill 'till it's over. then we'll collectively hoist our mugs and salute the incompetent dunderheads that allowed this mess to happen in the first place (but it won't be a very nice salute...) whatever you do, don't get your favorite driver's number tatooed anywhere .. it's sure to change and tatoo removal is expensive and not attractive.

any questions?

So to be a true fan should we toss our empties, or if you're a complete moron a full can 'o beer, out into the street that runs in front of the house ????

I also think Bud should pull that commercial out again. It would sorta like be rubbing salt into the wound, all the way around !!!

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

So to be a true fan should we toss our empties, or if you're a complete moron a full can 'o beer, out into the street that runs in front of the house ????

I also think Bud should pull that commercial out again. It would sorta like be rubbing salt into the wound, all the way around !!!

whose house? my house faces north and the "street", which is really a dirt road, runs north and south so isn't "in front" .. but I know what you mean.

I prefer making lawn art out of empties .. when they're out in the street it seems to indicate less pride in the neighborhood, lawn art just the opposite. then as the lawn begins to get crowded I sell them to the local recycler. keeps a fresh look to the place.

I'm gonna be experimenting with those extra-mini kegs (or super large cans) I saw at the supermarket. will definitely reduce my aluminum can recycling but it may be possible to use them to construct a much better wall than the current beer can walls I've seen. dunno if I can consume a whole one at one sitting (bladder, you know), but it'll be an interesting (and fun) experiment.

but I digress....

a true fan would find a way to use the empties to glorify their favorite driver.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

a true fan would find a way to use the empties to glorify their favorite driver.

OH !!! So that's what was going on when Jeff broke Dale's record. It was HIS fans. I get it now.

By the way we get a nickel per can here to return them. I'm gonna drink until I'm wealthy !!!

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

OH !!! So that's what was going on when Jeff broke Dale's record. It was HIS fans. I get it now.

By the way we get a nickel per can here to return them. I'm gonna drink until I'm wealthy !!!

I first thought "filthy rich" might have been a better description, but remembered (vaguely) the cohabiting female in the other room may not approve of the "filthy" adjective .. I know my ex didn't.

down here we are "reimbursed" to the tune of, last I saw, about 50 cents a pound. must be empties are more rare in the northland....

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

I first thought "filthy rich" might have been a better description, but remembered (vaguely) the cohabiting female in the other room may not approve of the "filthy" adjective .. I know my ex didn't.

down here we are "reimbursed" to the tune of, last I saw, about 50 cents a pound. must be empties are more rare in the northland....

Not at my house !!

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Not at my house !!

empty rareness or filthy adjective?

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

empty rareness or filthy adjective?

Me thinks she wouldn't mind being "filthy rich". It's the road getting there that would create the largest hurdle.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Me thinks she wouldn't mind being "filthy rich". It's the road getting there that would create the largest hurdle.

potholes in the road to the bank, huh? ya need to either change banks or neighborhoods....