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Originally Posted by Jeffrey4318

I believe they were talking about the old MB2 team not just the 13. Yes the 13 didn't exist but the 01 and 14 surely did. It was rumored that DEI had interest in merging with MB2 because their shops were so close together. MB2 instead sold to Ginn. Oh and it is Jay Frye not Frey. Facts straight please.

OK ... so I'm curious.. what wasn't factual ??? If you're referring to the spelling of the name, that is just a spelling issue and not a factual issue. If you're talking about what was written in the Herald VS what you believe ... how do we know what is factual unless it is straight from the mouth of either MB2 or Ginn.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey4318

I believe they were talking about the old MB2 team not just the 13. Yes the 13 didn't exist but the 01 and 14 surely did. It was rumored that DEI had interest in merging with MB2 because their shops were so close together. MB2 instead sold to Ginn. Oh and it is Jay Frye not Frey. Facts straight please.

I totally agree. The Herald is respected enough that they should get their facts straight, not just leave it to the readers to "Believe they meant..."

But then my criticism is regulated by the fact that I hold many of the major daily periodicals in complete contempt and I take a shot at them whenever, and where ever I get the chance.

[Jeffrey4318]

Geeezz guys.....Nobody can take a joke? I knew the Frey thing was a typo I was just kidding. From what you wrote I got the feeling you were talking about DEI buying the 13 team. That is what I took from your post that you thought the herald was talking about that. When really I believe they were talking about when DEI was rumored to buy MB2 right before Ginn purchased them. If you don't remember that rumor then you can look it up on jayski's. Yes, yes, I know I will get the "rumors are just rumors and not fact" response. I was just trying to explain what I thought the Herald was getting at. I could care less if you are right or they are.

[Racer Duck]

this from NASCAR.COM:

"Our plan has been from the beginning that we were going to build our team slowly, over time, not make snap decisions and quick decisions that we would look back on and regret and so we were running the truck and the Busch car and Regan was doing great in the Busch car," Ginn said. "He had done pretty well in the Cup and so I talked with Mark and Jay [Frye] and Mark was convinced that he was ready to run a full-time schedule so if I've got to run a car with no sponsorship on it I may as well be trying to get my young driver seat time.

"In our particular situation, right now, I think the younger drivers is what most of the sponsors [want]," Ginn said. "They're either going after the big names or they're going after somebody that they think is going to be a big name."

not saying he was right or wrong, but it seems like a logical business decision. the same article (NASCAR.COM - Smith to replace Marlin at Ginn; Nemechek released - Jul 19, 2007) covers Sterling's and Joe's comments.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by jayho1015

Not really. He did add a few more races to his schedule, and in doing so rooted Smith out of the seat for those races, costing him experience. Just for his own fun. Way to go Mark. Fun is fun, but some people are trying hard to make a living there. If he wants to run part time that's fine, but he shouldn't do it in the premier car for the team. Well, it probably doesn't matter anyway. I doubt he would have won it anyway. He hasn't won one before in better teams. And I guess it's not like Regan will probably do much, since this team is more about who draws sponsors.

kinda engaged mouth before the brain got there, didn't ya? now that the news is out that Mr. Smith is getting a full time cup ride, it doesn't seem like Mark "rooted" him out as you claimed, but merely agreed to fill the seat for some of those races left by Regan's departure from the 01 car while Aric is fulfilling his contract with Gibbs before taking over Regan's job as Mark's filler/trainee.

part time or not, Mark is the premier driver at Ginn. his past record proves it and he's delivering (unlike many with past records do.) if you compare Joe's record in the same car with the same team and sponsor last year (2 top 10's, avg start:18.0, avg finish:24.4) with Mark's record this year (4 top 5's, 7 top 10's, avg start:15.2, avg finish:10.9), it's obvious which driver is most deserving of the "premier" ride.

Joe is a good driver and not ready to "partially retire" .. I've already heard a rumor he'll be in the 3rd cup car for Ginn next year (and he's actively beating the bushes for sponsorship!)

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Duck is exactly right. Mark is in Ginn's premier car to keep it the premier car. If he had left Nemechek in it and put Mark elsewhere, it could have very well been Army pulling out instead of Certainteed/Haier and Ginn would have lost probably 35-40 percent of his financial support (rough estimate). Mark being in the 01 has nothing to do with what happened to Joe and Sterling. In fact, that seems to be the one smart thing Bobby has done with his team.

[Racer Duck]

thanks BBW .. feels good to have someone agree with you every once in a while.

BTW: I agree with your post also.