[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by kcoruol

It may be the religious invocation and the national anthem that may be offensive to some minorities. I think if NASCAR does away with these 2 portions of the race they may attract more minorities of different religious persuations and different nationalities. Also a separate area could be afforded at the track so some people could wash their feet and pray. Also a ban on alcohol at NASCAR events would go a long way toward making those whose religion forbids alcohol feel more welcome. Bilingual announcers should be a must as well. Many Americans can only speak in Mexican so all announcements should be in English and Mexican. Well, these are just a few ideas I have of how NASCAR could diverse the sport. Oh yeah, one more thing, female bathrooms in the pit area to attract female pit crew members!

FAR too limiting and discriminating. Bilingual announcers - just TOTALLY inadequate and inappropriate. Gonna have ta accomodate singularly lingual. Fourteen is the right number. All surrounding the main microphone for the audio system that floods the grandstands. How else can one achieve an equal opportunity to address the assembled multitudes. Folks in the stands are just going to have to learn how to FOCUS on the language of their choice tuning out the cacophony. Anything less would be unequal opportunity. Only thing that would cause me to lose my focus would be - Goal, goal, goal - when the winner took the checkered.

female bathrooms in the pit area to attract female pit crew members - just plain not necessary in likely the majority of the minds, regardless of gender. Giving however that the possibility exists that gender specific facilities might indeed be necessary to appease outside influences - how in the world could one only have two???!!!. Shamefully inadequate.

Other than that, ya gotta be considered at the very least - "close" - to right on it.

[wardfan]

How about Jessie Jackson & Al Sharpton put THEIR money where their mouths are and start their own teams.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by kcoruol

It may be the religious invocation and the national anthem that may be offensive to some minorities. I think if NASCAR does away with these 2 portions of the race they may attract more minorities of different religious persuations and different nationalities. Also a separate area could be afforded at the track so some people could wash their feet and pray. Also a ban on alcohol at NASCAR events would go a long way toward making those whose religion forbids alcohol feel more welcome. Bilingual announcers should be a must as well. Many Americans can only speak in Mexican so all announcements should be in English and Mexican. Well, these are just a few ideas I have of how NASCAR could diverse the sport. Oh yeah, one more thing, female bathrooms in the pit area to attract female pit crew members!

My gosh... where to start...

"Religious invocation and National Anthem may be offensive to some minorities" So...? Your point is? That is why some are in the majority and some are minorities! If anyone is offended by an invocation or our National Anthem, then that's their problem and it's their job to just get the Hell over it and get a life.

Ban alcohol to placate those who have a intense religious intolerance against it? I reference my last sentence in the above paragraph but replace "invocation" and "National Anthem" with alcohol. I'll underline my solution to the problem, just so there is zero misunderstanding as to my meaning.

Many Americans can speak only in Mexican (FYI; there is no such language as Mexican. In Mexico they speak Spanish and Mayan, in various dialects).

The vast majority (but not all) of the Americans I see speak English. I see a lot of ILLEGAL ALIENS who speak only Spanish, Mayan, Farsi, Urdu, Serbo-Croatian, Tagalog, and Russian. But these folks shouldn't even be inside our borders in the first place so I could care less at whether they are watching NASCAR, let alone worry about whether they are offended by anything they see or hear!

Female restrooms in the pits... Hmmm...? I can think of a couple of current Cup drivers which might be able to make us of these facilities. But seriously hold onto that thought... After the next presidential election we'll probably have a "President" (I use that term in the most loose context) who might well mandate such a thing. (But God help any driver who is injured and has to be transported to the infield medical center; there'll probably be a six hour wait for medical attention!)

If I've irritated you sufficiently by now and you don't know what to do, I can give you direction to the <IGNORE> function, where you can put my name and you'll never see my postings again.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by kcoruol

It may be the religious invocation and the national anthem that may be offensive to some minorities. I think if NASCAR does away with these 2 portions of the race they may attract more minorities of different religious persuations and different nationalities. Also a separate area could be afforded at the track so some people could wash their feet and pray. Also a ban on alcohol at NASCAR events would go a long way toward making those whose religion forbids alcohol feel more welcome. Bilingual announcers should be a must as well. Many Americans can only speak in Mexican so all announcements should be in English and Mexican.

I hope you aren't serious. If these people cannot speak the language, or have different religous views, they should either deal with it or stay home! I am so sick of the far left wanting to change this country to appease immigrants/illegals. This debate could rage on and on, but it would get very ugly very fast.....

This thread is drifting away from its original intent, and that is minorities that actually race, not fill the stands. Like I said earlier, it all starts at the grass roots levels, and there are very few of them there.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by wardfan

How about Jessie Jackson & Al Sharpton put THEIR money where their mouths are and start their own teams.

Best idea I've heard yet!

[Bob Tanner]

Re:Originally Posted by wardfan
How about Jessie Jackson & Al Sharpton put THEIR money where their mouths are and start their own teams

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

Best idea I've heard yet!

Be verwy, verwy careful about what you wish for, Donald. You may get it. Almost everyone wanted NASCAR to get really BIG, and look at all the joy that's caused!

Come to think of it, I don't think we have to worry about Al and "The Slogan Master." Multiple reasons I won't go into here.

[wingkey1]

Tanner, Wardy, Nevada,

I think kcoruol had tongue "deep in cheek" when offering commentary.

I read the posting as "sure let's go ahead and torpedo everything American that remains in NASCAR". 'Bout everything else has been trampled.

Now if I am wrong - first - all of ya's can string me up, warm up the tar, apply the feathers, and I will scream yer support. Second - should I survive the deserved "string up" - I am with you and this country to the death.

I have posted repeatedly that, God forbid, come the day that NASCAR no longer provides time for prayer to the God of our forefathers, salute to the flag of our God blessed country, and acknowledgment to those who serve, I'm done with them - forever.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

This thread is drifting away from its original intent, and that is minorities that actually race, not fill the stands. Like I said earlier, it all starts at the grass roots levels, and there are very few of them there.

That it has. Within the forum rules it requests that politics and religion be left out of our discussions, and for obvious reasons. The discussion of diversity is treading close to th edge so at a minimum lets keep the subject on diversity within NASCAR. That will eliminate the need to close a thread that can and should produce useful discussion.

Face it ... we aren't going to change anything anyway but we can talk about it and express our opinions ... concerning diversity.

Thanks

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

That it has. Within the forum rules it requests that politics and religion be left out of our discussions, and for obvious reasons. The discussion of diversity is treading close to th edge so at a minimum lets keep the subject on diversity within NASCAR. That will eliminate the need to close a thread that can and should produce useful discussion.

Face it ... we aren't going to change anything anyway but we can talk about it and express our opinions ... concerning diversity.

Thanks

So ET can compete if able?

If you answer, we may have to launch a shot across yer bow. Meaning - the question is ignorable.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

So ET can compete if able?

If you answer, we may have to launch a shot across yer bow. Meaning - the question is ignorable.

Please explain/describe "able"

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Please explain/describe "able"

BLAM!!

Shot 'cross bow. Heave to or suffer the sword.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

BLAM!!

Shot 'cross bow. Heave to or suffer the sword.

Ha

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Ha

No, no, no., it's -

Ha me hearties

Geez. We'll get ya there.

[PettyBlue]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

No, no, no., it's -

Ha me hearties

Geez. We'll get ya there.

Try Har, me maties.

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by PettyBlue

Try Har, me maties.

You be absoluto correcto had he said "Har".

He said "Ha".

I can't believe we're at this level. One of us be clearly more crazy than the other. I defer to your choice.


Back to diversity, cause like yer makin' me stray. I believe there may be two, possible three, votes for accepting "pirates" (should that be capitalized?), as a category of racer that will be provided neither handicap nor advantage should one achieve the opportunity to compete in a NASCAR event. What da flip we gonna do about the parrot?