[PettyBlue]

Originally Posted by McMurray26

yeah yeah DW

name 1 other driver that kept the number and i'll name you 100 owners that kept the number...

Mike Curb/owner,Richard Petty/driver,year 1984,car number 43.I will wait on your 100 owners.

[PettyBlue]

Originally Posted by LADY3

Its not right, its just not right, and I'll never ever get used to it.
Hendricks should replace a sponsor. Budweiser and Dale are an icon. When you think of one you think of the other. SO SO SO SAD

Icon in Nascar=STP/Richard Petty and even they parted ways.Bud/Jr. ain't crap for an icon between sponsor/driver.

[McMurray26]

i may not get the owners but i will name 100 instances of drivers changing and leaving the number...

1. earnhardt to the 15
2. earnhardt to the 3
3. m. waltrip to the 7
4. m. waltrip to the 21
5. m. waltrip to the 15
6. m. waltrip to the 55
7. r. gordon to the 7
8. d. jarrett to the 21
9. d. jarrett to the 18
10. d. jarrett to the 28/88
11. d. jarrett to the 44
12. dw to the 17
13. rusty to the 27
14. rusty to the 2
15. skinner to the 4
16. w. burton to the 22
17. w. burton to the 0
18. E. Irvan to the 4
19. E. Irvan to the 28
20. E. Irvan to the 36
21. t. labonte to the 11
22. t. labonte to the 94
23. t. labonte to the 14
24. t. labonte to the 5
25. marlin to the 94
26. marlin to the 4
27. marlin to the 40
28. marlin to the 14
29. martin to the 01
30. ku. busch to the 2
31. k. petty to the 21
32. k. petty to the 42
33. k. petty to the 44
34. irwin to the 42
35. mcmurray to the 26
36. rudd to the 26
37. rudd to the 5
38. rudd to the 10
39. rudd to the 28
40. rudd to the 21
41. rudd to the 88
42. hillin to the 90
43. b. labonte to the 18
44. b. labonte to the 43
45. wilson to the 44
46. bonnett to the 21
47. bonnett to the 51
48. elliott to the 11
49. elliott to the 94
50. dw to the 66
51. e. sadler to the 38
52. e. sadler to the 19
53. mayfield to the 12
54. mayfield to the 19
55. mayfield to the 36
56. andretti to the 43
57. andretti to the 1
58. andretti to the 45
59. musgrave to the 16
60. dallenbach to the 25
61. dallenbach to the 43
62. hamilton to the 43
63. craven to the 25/50
64. craven to the 32
65. elliott to the 21
66. schrader to the 36
67. schrader to the 49
68. schrader to the 21
69. little to the 97
70. k. wallace to the 81
71. k. wallace to the 55
72. k. wallace to the 78
73. stricklin to the 27
74. stricklin to the 8
75. j. burton to the 99
76. j. burton to the 31
77. marlin to the 22
78. loy allen to the 27
79. m. wallace to the 4
80. b. bodine to the 26
81. b. bodine to the 11
82. mast to the 75
83. pressley to the 77
84. nemechek to the 01
85. g. bodine to the 15
86. g. bodine to the 7
87. cope to the 30
88. spencer to the 27
89. spencer to the 12
90. spencer to the 7
91. spencer to the 41
92. speed to the 15
93. wilson to the 8
94. cope to the 98
95. andretti to the 98

ok ok ok i am five short and i have to go home from work...

but i promise to you on anything those were all off the top of my head...

none of those are cheapies either that i could of used like dw driving the one car for DEI...

[jks812]

Originally Posted by McMurray26

i don't mean to be a jerk, but this quote right here is such a great illustration of the "new" fans...

it seems to me that in the last huge wave of fans (since network TV and SR's death) that a lot of fans just don't understand how NASCAR works...

i realize that sponsors like thier drivers and stuff and sometimes but not often they will go with that driver but many more times they don't...

but the sponsors sponsor the car, the team and the owner, the owner is the one who gets the money to fund the team...

and the same thing goes with the number 8 no one takes their number anywhere, it always stays with the owner...

i am surprised most people don't think the drivers own their cars and that they race the same car every weekend...

i am only 24 and i have been watching since i can remember and i have known how this all works for a long long time, shoot rusty was my favorite before he reitred and miller even went with him from the 27 to the 2 and i still knew that wasn't the norm...

look i am not saying i know everything about racing, but this is all very basic and i guess i take it forgranted that casual fans should know this stuff

1.If you by their quote you mean them saying, who's going to sponsor Jr now, that don't make them a new fan. I have been watching Nascar longer than you have been alive, and guess what? I say who is gonna be Jr's sponsor. But I guess I should be saying, who is going to sponsor the car that Jr will be driving for owner Rick Hendrick. Alot easier to say it the other way.
2. The only reason I think alot of people looked for Bud to go with Jr is because they said they might.
3. Probably not alot of them ask to take a number with them. But when you are as popular as Jr is in the 8, you're gonna ask. Thats kinda like Gordon and the 24 now.
4.They seriously don't own their cars?

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by McMurray26

i may not get the owners but i will name 100 instances of drivers changing and leaving the number...

1. earnhardt to the 15
2. earnhardt to the 3
3. m. waltrip to the 7
4. m. waltrip to the 21
5. m. waltrip to the 15
6. m. waltrip to the 55
7. r. gordon to the 7
8. d. jarrett to the 21
9. d. jarrett to the 18
10. d. jarrett to the 28/88
11. d. jarrett to the 44
12. dw to the 17
13. rusty to the 27
14. rusty to the 2
15. skinner to the 4
16. w. burton to the 22
17. w. burton to the 0
18. E. Irvan to the 4
19. E. Irvan to the 28
20. E. Irvan to the 36
21. t. labonte to the 11
22. t. labonte to the 94
23. t. labonte to the 14
24. t. labonte to the 5
25. marlin to the 94
26. marlin to the 4
27. marlin to the 40
28. marlin to the 14
29. martin to the 01
30. ku. busch to the 2
31. k. petty to the 21
32. k. petty to the 42
33. k. petty to the 44
34. irwin to the 42
35. mcmurray to the 26
36. rudd to the 26
37. rudd to the 5
38. rudd to the 10
39. rudd to the 28
40. rudd to the 21
41. rudd to the 88
42. hillin to the 90
43. b. labonte to the 18
44. b. labonte to the 43
45. wilson to the 44
46. bonnett to the 21
47. bonnett to the 51
48. elliott to the 11
49. elliott to the 94
50. dw to the 66
51. e. sadler to the 38
52. e. sadler to the 19
53. mayfield to the 12
54. mayfield to the 19
55. mayfield to the 36
56. andretti to the 43
57. andretti to the 1
58. andretti to the 45
59. musgrave to the 16
60. dallenbach to the 25
61. dallenbach to the 43
62. hamilton to the 43
63. craven to the 25/50
64. craven to the 32
65. elliott to the 21
66. schrader to the 36
67. schrader to the 49
68. schrader to the 21
69. little to the 97
70. k. wallace to the 81
71. k. wallace to the 55
72. k. wallace to the 78
73. stricklin to the 27
74. stricklin to the 8
75. j. burton to the 99
76. j. burton to the 31
77. marlin to the 22
78. loy allen to the 27
79. m. wallace to the 4
80. b. bodine to the 26
81. b. bodine to the 11
82. mast to the 75
83. pressley to the 77
84. nemechek to the 01
85. g. bodine to the 15
86. g. bodine to the 7
87. cope to the 30
88. spencer to the 27
89. spencer to the 12
90. spencer to the 7
91. spencer to the 41
92. speed to the 15
93. wilson to the 8
94. cope to the 98
95. andretti to the 98

ok ok ok i am five short and i have to go home from work...

but i promise to you on anything those were all off the top of my head...

none of those are cheapies either that i could of used like dw driving the one car for DEI...

Clearly your underworked and overpaid!

[Pepsi One]

By the way if it was off the top of your head, i give you a "mad props award"....

[McMurray26]

i accept the mad props...

[McMurray26]

Originally Posted by jks812

1.If you by their quote you mean them saying, who's going to sponsor Jr now, that don't make them a new fan. I have been watching Nascar longer than you have been alive, and guess what? I say who is gonna be Jr's sponsor. But I guess I should be saying, who is going to sponsor the car that Jr will be driving for owner Rick Hendrick. Alot easier to say it the other way.
2. The only reason I think alot of people looked for Bud to go with Jr is because they said they might.
3. Probably not alot of them ask to take a number with them. But when you are as popular as Jr is in the 8, you're gonna ask. Thats kinda like Gordon and the 24 now.
4.They seriously don't own their cars?

well obviously you took what he said differently than i did...

i took it like, if bud isn't going to sponsor then who will, like no one else can sponsor dale jr. and he didn't understand why he would change...

maybe that's not what he meant and if he didn't i apologize, although everything i said i do mean...

i never heard anything that said bud wanted to go with him just rumors...

[bears9]

Originally Posted by McMurray26

well obviously you took what he said differently than i did...

i took it like, if bud isn't going to sponsor then who will, like no one else can sponsor dale jr. and he didn't understand why he would change...

maybe that's not what he meant and if he didn't i apologize, although everything i said i do mean...

i never heard anything that said bud wanted to go with him just rumors...

do you watch ESPN?

[McMurray26]

yes i watch espn, but i think too many people thought just since it was JR, bud was going to go with him, it was always just a rumor...

havoline didn't go with mcmurray...

m&m's didn't go with sadler...

and so on...

yes i know sponsors sometimes do go with the driver...

but i think a lot of people thought that bud sponsored jr's car no matter what, when in fact they sponsor the car from dei that jr drives...

[bears9]

Originally Posted by McMurray26

yes i watch espn, but i think too many people thought just since it was JR, bud was going to go with him, it was always just a rumor...

havoline didn't go with mcmurray...

m&m's didn't go with sadler...

and so on...

yes i know sponsors sometimes do go with the driver...

but i think a lot of people thought that bud sponsored jr's car no matter what, when in fact they sponsor the car from dei that jr drives...

there saying it exactley like i said it Quote so who will sponser Dale Jr. all signs point to Moutain Dew i know sponser change i just figured his sponser would be who ever Kyle Busch or Casey Mears already had

[McMurray26]

Mike9

i am assuming you're a Cubs fan...

[bears9]

Originally Posted by McMurray26

Mike9

i am assuming you're a Cubs fan...

Its Bears9 and yes

[McMurray26]

my bad on the Milke9 thing...

well i hate the cubs (i am cardinals fan), and every sports team from chicago...

but i will tell you this i think Rex is going to be good if they stick with him, big arm he just needs to settle down a little bit...

and like i said earlier, i apologize if i took your quote wrong, but like i said i do feel that too many who claim to be fans don't know how the sport works and that is fine you can still watch i just wish that people who didn't know would ask questions rather than just jumping into a conversation...

like i said my bad and thank you for immortalizing me in your sig...

[bears9]

Originally Posted by McMurray26

my bad on the Milke9 thing...

well i hate the cubs (i am cardinals fan), and every sports team from chicago...

but i will tell you this i think Rex is going to be good if they stick with him, big arm he just needs to settle down a little bit...

and like i said earlier, i apologize if i took your quote wrong, but like i said i do feel that too many who claim to be fans don't know how the sport works and that is fine you can still watch i just wish that people who didn't know would ask questions rather than just jumping into a conversation...

like i said my bad and thank you for immortalizing me in your sig...

apogize accepted and your welcome for being immortallized in my sig