[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Fact still remains that when a driver is leaving the All mighty Hendrick organization he gets the shaft from his so-called teammates. The difference this time is Busch was the one to say something before the rest of the Hendrick drivers could. Vickers didn't get that luxury.

Its buisness, just like in any other buisness not everyones gonna be happy! (see Nascar)

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by jks812

Talented but whiney drivers still win races. Being most popular don't win races.

But it does bring in a windfall of cold hard cashe, and Im sure Earnhardt Jr. will be able to win more than 4 races over a three year span in his new HMS toy!

[jks812]

Originally Posted by meat

Kyle is just a punk little kid who wants to be in the limelight, but guess what...he has no personality. He's just boring and blah, and frankly, unattractive. Put them all together and they spell no popularity in NASCAR, no matter how well he races.

I don't see Jr. boohooing over not getting support from team members at DEI now that he's leaving. Jr. can drive like crap, and reporters still follow him around.

Somebody needs to school that little boy and teach him a lesson on what it takes to be a popular driver in NASCAR.

I go by how they race, don't care what they look like it.
And no Jr isn't crying since he's leaving DEI, but was doing plenty before.
Kyle might not even care if he's not popular. After all it's a driving sport and not a popularity contest.

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by meat

Kyle is just a punk little kid who wants to be in the limelight, but guess what...he has no personality. He's just boring and blah, and frankly, unattractive. Put them all together and they spell no popularity in NASCAR, no matter how well he races.

I don't see Jr. boohooing over not getting support from team members at DEI now that he's leaving. Jr. can drive like crap, and reporters still follow him around.

Somebody needs to school that little boy and teach him a lesson on what it takes to be a popular driver in NASCAR.

While I do agree with you that Kyle is a punk that needs to be taught a lesson, I do not agree with you that his looks make him bad. He is a talented race car driver no doubt, but his attitude and idiocy doesn't backup his talent.

As far as Jr goes, I think Jr is happy to go to HMS, a team he KNOWS will have equipment for him that will win a championship. If Sr was around, I believe he would support Jr's decision as well.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by Mike24

As far as Jr goes, I think Jr is happy to go to HMS, a team he KNOWS will have equipment for him that will win a championship. If Sr was around, I believe he would support Jr's decision as well.

You know me Mike, I'm anti-HMS, but this is obviously the best move for Jr as a person. He wants to win the Cup bad, and it wasnt happening for him at DEI. No doubt Sr would have stood behind his decision.

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

You know me Mike, I'm anti-HMS, but this is obviously the best move for Jr as a person. He wants to win the Cup bad, and it wasnt happening for him at DEI. No doubt Sr would have stood behind his decision.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Pepsi One

But it does bring in a windfall of cold hard cashe, and Im sure Earnhardt Jr. will be able to win more than 4 races over a three year span in his new HMS toy!

What 3 year span did he win 4 races or is that just an example ???

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

What 3 year span did he win 4 races or is that just an example ???

Im referring to Busch, I think he's won 4 races over two years i could be wrong it might just be three.....

[jks812]

Kyle has had 4 wins from 05-now. Jr has had 2 wins in the same period. Yes I think Jr can do good at Hendrick. Not saying he can do better than Kyle, not saying that he won't.

I think Jr. is only an average driver, but he's got hype to boost his status. I don't remember him ever whining that he didn't get support from DEI--as far as equipment, or support from teammates. He's simply leaving for family ($$$) reasons--in that he wasn't allowed to get control of DEI, which his dad founded. A move that I support.

Jr. might do even worse at HMS, because he may not be getting the BEST of everything, which I'm sure he did at DEI.

NASCAR is becoming just like every other thing you see on tv--looks obsessed, and Kyle just doesn't cut it. NASCAR is deserately trying to attract more women and minorities as it's fans. Regardless of how good Kyle might be as a driver, he still has a substantial "ick" factor, that he is either unaware of, or doesn't know how to overcome. I suspect he's unaware of it.

All I'm saying is the boy doesn't understand what Q Scores are all about. Popularity in NASCAR is also about likeablity. Tony IS a good driver. He may be an a-hole, but that's what makes many people like him. He's got "moxy." I don't think too many people would say Michael Waltrip or Kyle Petty are very good drivers right now, but they've got legions of fans. They have likeable personalities--they seem to have a good sense of humor, are family oriented, grateful to fans, and are humble.

Kyle just can't seem to grasp that just because you win races, it doesn't make you a superstar in NASCAR.

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think Jr. is only an average driver, but he's got hype to boost his status. I don't remember him ever whining that he didn't get support from DEI--as far as equipment, or support from teammates. He's simply leaving for family ($$$) reasons--in that he wasn't allowed to get control of DEI, which his dad founded. A move that I support.

Jr. might do even worse at HMS, because he may not be getting the BEST of everything, which I'm sure he did at DEI.

NASCAR is becoming just like every other thing you see on tv--looks obsessed, and Kyle just doesn't cut it. NASCAR is deserately trying to attract more women and minorities as it's fans. Regardless of how good Kyle might be as a driver, he still has a substantial "ick" factor, that he is either unaware of, or doesn't know how to overcome. I suspect he's unaware of it.

All I'm saying is the boy doesn't understand what Q Scores are all about. Popularity in NASCAR is also about likeablity. Tony IS a good driver. He may be an a-hole, but that's what makes many people like him. He's got "moxy." I don't think too many people would say Michael Waltrip or Kyle Petty are very good drivers right now, but they've got legions of fans. They have likeable personalities--they seem to have a good sense of humor, are family oriented, grateful to fans, and are humble.

Kyle just can't seem to grasp that just because you win races, it doesn't make you a superstar in NASCAR.

I believe Rick Hendrick said "I will give Jr the best possible equipment to win a championship." Maybe I can't read or hear, but that's what I saw.

[bears9]

What Gordon says is crap it sounds like Dale Jr, has replaced Kyle Busch and he has i know it, you know it,Jeff Gordon knows it, and Kyle Busch knowns it.Know matter what Jeff Gordon says Kyle Busch is already out of there

[jks812]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think Jr. is only an average driver, but he's got hype to boost his status. I don't remember him ever whining that he didn't get support from DEI--as far as equipment, or support from teammates. He's simply leaving for family ($$$) reasons--in that he wasn't allowed to get control of DEI, which his dad founded. A move that I support.

Jr. might do even worse at HMS, because he may not be getting the BEST of everything, which I'm sure he did at DEI.

NASCAR is becoming just like every other thing you see on tv--looks obsessed, and Kyle just doesn't cut it. NASCAR is deserately trying to attract more women and minorities as it's fans. Regardless of how good Kyle might be as a driver, he still has a substantial "ick" factor, that he is either unaware of, or doesn't know how to overcome. I suspect he's unaware of it.

All I'm saying is the boy doesn't understand what Q Scores are all about. Popularity in NASCAR is also about likeablity. Tony IS a good driver. He may be an a-hole, but that's what makes many people like him. He's got "moxy." I don't think too many people would say Michael Waltrip or Kyle Petty are very good drivers right now, but they've got legions of fans. They have likeable personalities--they seem to have a good sense of humor, are family oriented, grateful to fans, and are humble.

Kyle just can't seem to grasp that just because you win races, it doesn't make you a superstar in NASCAR.

I agree that the Jr is doing the best thing for him. He shouldn't have got 51% of DEI, just 51%of the race part. I think Hendrick will give him "the best equipment he can".
And if Kyle doesn't cut it in Nascar just because of his looks, I got news for you, there are ALOT that don't cut it either. Nascar is not based on looks. It is based on talent.
Yes Kyle does have alot of growing up to do. What 22 year old making that kind of money wouldn't have an attitude problem? But he can outgrow that.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by jks812

What 22 year old making that kind of money wouldn't have an attitude problem?

Brian Vickers didnt have that kind of attitude when he was that age making big money. But on the other hand, he wasn't winning or running up front either.

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by bears9

What Gordon says is crap it sounds like Dale Jr, has replaced Kyle Busch and he has i know it, you know it,Jeff Gordon knows it, and Kyle Busch knowns it.Know matter what Jeff Gordon says Kyle Busch is already out of there

I have no doubt that if Kyle is on the outside looking in, he put his self out there with his spoiled attitude, just like his brother at Roush, problem with the Busch brothers is they both thought they were icons before they did anything, I'd say mommy and daddy's fault on that one! Told'm how special they were and crap like that!