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Old 07-10-2007, 01:56 AM
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Busch series chase!

Just thinking, If their going to allow the Nextel regulars to race in the Busch series and build up 800 point leads doesn't it make more Sense to put a chase for the championship here, to me it makes more sense than having one in the Nextel cup, Basically Edwards only needs to start his engine on Saturdays and he could win the championship, isn't that why they started it in the Nextel Cup, because Kenseth had a 300 point lead or so....I might be more interested in it if I didn't know who the champ was going to be at the begining of the season, Even the announcers knew Edwards was going to win, and truth be told he'd probably win it anyways, but at least give us a little hope that an actual Busch driver could win it!
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:22 AM
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Re: Busch series chase!

Pepsi, do you ever sleep? I think they need a reverse chase in the Busch series. The top 15 in points are not elligable (sp?) for the race. Everybody from 16th on down is in the playoffs. The Busch Wacker's might keep their greedy noses in the Cup races where they belong. (Or sandbag, which would really stink.)
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: Busch series chase!

I'm one of those that hate the invasion of cup drivers into the Busch series. It would be easy to say that none of the cup drivers could go for the championship but ...... when a driver, cup or Busch, runs the entire Busch series why shouldn't he be eligible for the championship ?? Now what would you say if Mark Martin ends up in the top 12 for the cup series ?? Sorry you can't compete because you didn't make every race ??? Points are points, if you're in the top 12 then you are in. My feeling is that you should not be able to run in the Busch series if you are a cup driver. If they weren't racing at the same tracks most weeks you'd never see the cup drivers in the race. It is nothing more than a free test session. Maybe next year will be different. Cup will be COT and Busch will keep what they have now.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:17 PM
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Re: Busch series chase!

not wanting to stir up things (yeah right ), but I think for next year they need to have a chase in all 3 divisions. with the caveat that a driver, in order to qualify for the chase in any particular division, has to (personally) attempt to qualify for at least 3/4 of the scheduled races for that division (no matter the outcome of a race, if the driver did not personally qualify for that race, the points for that race do not count toward the chase.) further the chase is limited to the top 20 drivers in driver points - all others get the rest of the season off. and finally, all Chase races will be 300 miles or 300 laps, which ever is less, and will compete on the same track on the same day with 1 hour between races. then any driver who chooses to not compete in the chase for any reason, the next eligible driver is entered.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:06 PM
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not wanting to stir up things (yeah right ), but I think for next year they need to have a chase in all 3 divisions. with the caveat that a driver, in order to qualify for the chase in any particular division, has to (personally) attempt to qualify for at least 3/4 of the scheduled races for that division (no matter the outcome of a race, if the driver did not personally qualify for that race, the points for that race do not count toward the chase.) further the chase is limited to the top 20 drivers in driver points - all others get the rest of the season off. and finally, all Chase races will be 300 miles or 300 laps, which ever is less, and will compete on the same track on the same day with 1 hour between races. then any driver who chooses to not compete in the chase for any reason, the next eligible driver is entered.
So you are saying that it would be possible, ... not likely, that Carl Edwards could run three races in one day ???? Now that is a deterent if I've ever heard of one.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:09 PM
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Re: Busch series chase!

you know here's the thing, i know people hate the whole cup regulars in busch but when you look at it really doesn't matter and there may be a bigger problem at hand...

the busch series does not matter at all for anything other than a little more cash for nascar and the owners...

it is not like it is used for developing drivers anymore...

younger and younger drivers are being developed in busch east and i am not sure what is out west since it is obviously not winston west anymore...

guys like jon wood will eventually get to a cup ride and roll around in the 21 for awhile and if he has some good runs he will get attention from a bigger opp. and leave the family team and go there...

young guys are getting more and more chances all the time, sponsors don't won't old drivers...

the days of jimmy hensley and bobby hamilton being almost 40 or older and winner the rookie of the year are over...

and i know back then it was very cyclical with a rookie class sometimes it would be a bunch of young guys ('93 labonte, gordon, wallace) and then you'd have one or two busch regulars who finally got a shot and then more young guys and good would not make the race...

but that is over, rookies are going to keep getting younger and younger...

pretty soon NASCAR is going to have their own lebron or sydney crosby who turns 18 and plays in the big leagues...

even the truck series is sorta different as far as development goes, the racing down there is great but mostly it is for a bunch of cast offs who aren't even has beens, the guys who do develop down there hardly run a full season much less battle for a championship...

so unfortunately the busch series is toast and i think AB knows that as well and that is why next year it won't be the busch series...

to get life back into that series they probably need to do something drastic like race suv's or something...
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:20 PM
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:07 PM
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LOOK !!!! Here comes the LSC sponsored 4 banger Honda CRV .... he's gonna take the Indy SUV 250 ... again !!!
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Re: Busch series chase!

ya gotta remember next year Cup is all COT. that means any Buschwackers will be doing it for racings sake not to help their Cup ride.

luckily there's a few teams that are intent on their Busch driver development and don't see it as a testing center for Cup. and there's some high profile Busch team owners that don't have a cup team nor plans for one (Jr. Motorsports and Kevin Harvick Racing to name just two.)

the farther apart NASCAR makes Cup and Busch cars, the better it will be for the Busch series (or whatever it's gonna be called).

I agree, it ain't good right now, but the winds of change are blowing and it's gonna be for the better, I think.

now if we could just find a way to get the neverwas's and usetobe's outa CTS, NASCAR racin' would be rosy.

why don't some of you young folks work on that one while I fine tune my "3-a-day Chase Race" rules.....
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:33 AM
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Re: Busch series chase!

Nascar says they dont stop Nextel guys from driving in the Busch series because it boost attendance when a Nextel driver is racing, but I say limit the Nextel guys to 10 or so races a year in the Busch series, I also like that reverse chase idea!
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Re: Busch series chase!

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Nascar says they dont stop Nextel guys from driving in the Busch series because it boost attendance when a Nextel driver is racing, but I say limit the Nextel guys to 10 or so races a year in the Busch series, I also like that reverse chase idea!
only problem I see with this is Edwards runs/wins the first 10, kevin harvick runs/wins 2nd 10 and kensth runs/wins last 10. still all cup guys taking the wins/money/sponsor exposure from the regulars
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Re: Busch series chase!

maybe they should do a limit to 1 points entry for the three division, you can still race the others but you don't get pioints and only half the prize money, other half goes to point fund.

this would allow busch guys to run a cup race or 2 to try thier hand, but in reverse you'd still have a busch regular win the championship,and add to his/her resume.




when was the last non cup busch champion harvick in 01, was only going to run a few cup races but ended running all but 1, does that count ???
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when was the last non cup busch champion harvick in 01, was only going to run a few cup races but ended running all but 1, does that count ???
Wasn't it Martin Truex in 04. Didn't he just run like 2 or 3 cup races that year?
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they should have a chase and do it the same the cup series does the top 12 which is around have of Busch regulars at this point
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