[Mike24]

Originally Posted by Pepsi One

Why is that, howcome now if you wreck someone to win your considered a bad driver, but Earnhardt made a career out of it!

I personally believe you need to do whatever it takes to win. If that means spinning someone, then do it. Some people believe that is the wrong thing to do. It's a difference of opinion.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Mike24

Times are changing

Maybe for some but not me. I disliked Sr just for that very reason. Pass & Crash was and is a style I do not care for ... no matter who does it.

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Maybe for some but not me. I disliked Sr just for that very reason. Pass & Crash was and is a style I do not care for ... no matter who does it.

which refers back to my previous post

Originally Posted by Mike24

I personally believe you need to do whatever it takes to win. If that means spinning someone, then do it. Some people believe that is the wrong thing to do. It's a difference of opinion.

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Maybe for some but not me. I disliked Sr just for that very reason. Pass & Crash was and is a style I do not care for ... no matter who does it.

Montoya made me proud when he spun his teammate for the win in that busch race, and Gordon dissappointed me when he didn't spin his out for the win at Martinsville!

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

The funny thing is, Tony said in his interview he seen that the handling went away on the 11 car a few laps earlier. If he knew that, he should have went to the high side and attempted to pass him, instead of sitting on his rear bumper.
The comment about Denny trying to wreck him in practice was over-the-top.

That's what I saw. Whether Hamlin slowed down or not, you could see from Tony's in-car that he clearly forced the issue. I'm not suprised about the way Tony handled the interview. He's been in the sport for 8 years and I've never heard him take responsibility for a wreck.

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by Pepsi One

Montoya made me proud when he spun his teammate for the win in that busch race, and Gordon dissappointed me when he didn't spin his out for the win at Martinsville!

with the Car of Tommorow, you need to literally ram into him if you want to spin someone out. Gordon was trying his best to move Johnson out of the way, but couldn't do it because he didn't ram into him.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Pepsi One

Montoya made me proud when he spun his teammate for the win in that busch race, and Gordon dissappointed me when he didn't spin his out for the win at Martinsville!

So you are in favor of the crash & pass style of driving ?

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

So you are in favor of the crash & pass style of driving ?

Im a huge fan of doing whatever it takes to win, its the kind of thing that got Gordon and Earnhardt 11 championships, and Mark Martin and Jeff Burton Zero....

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Pepsi One

Why is that, howcome now if you wreck someone to win your considered a bad driver, but Earnhardt made a career out of it!

for some of us, the rules we live by haven't changed. we still see Sr. as a rough driver and have never condoned what he did nor do we suddenly think he was a god since he was killed on the track. his record speaks for itself, but how much worse would it be if he had used his abilities instead of his bumper to win races? I personally think the answer is "a lot".

since tony believes his "greatest driver" press, it's obvious he should be in the race all by himself - then when he wrecks it'll be the track's fault.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Pepsi One

Im a huge fan of doing whatever it takes to win, its the kind of thing that got Gordon and Earnhardt 11 championships, and Mark Martin and Jeff Burton Zero....

the ends justify the means. that sums up your attitude.

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

for some of us, the rules we live by haven't changed. we still see Sr. as a rough driver and have never condoned what he did nor do we suddenly think he was a god since he was killed on the track. his record speaks for itself, but how much worse would it be if he had used his abilities instead of his bumper to win races? I personally think the answer is "a lot".

since tony believes his "greatest driver" press, it's obvious he should be in the race all by himself - then when he wrecks it'll be the track's fault.

Like Martinsville where the track comes up and puts chunks of pavement through your front end, I see what your saying!

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

the ends justify the means. that sums up your attitude.

Absolutly, just see the Iraq war! Proud supporter!

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Pepsi One

Absolutly, just see the Iraq war! Proud supporter!

we don't discuss the war nor things political outside of NASCAR politics here.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Pepsi One

Absolutly, just see the Iraq war! Proud supporter!

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

we don't discuss the war nor things political outside of NASCAR politics here.

Point well taken. Just check out the forum rules if there is any question about that.

[Pepsi One]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

we don't discuss the war nor things political outside of NASCAR politics here.

My bad but you were trying to make a point to my character and i thought it poinent to make that statement so you could better understand....