[PenelopePitStop]

Not Jeff. Robby.

Seen this?

NASCAR.COM - Front-row starters end day fuming over fuel mileage - Jun 25, 2007

[Nevadastars]

I didn't read the article, but I saw Robbys interview on Speed. He said for whatever reason, the "rental" engines don't get the mileage that the top tier teams do. Ya can't blame the guy for being a tad upset. He dominated all day while in his words, "cruising" only to get spanked by someone who could go 3 or 4 laps further on fuel. Personally, I hate fuel mileage races where the fastest car doesnt win.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

I didn't read the article, but I saw Robbys interview on Speed. He said for whatever reason, the "rental" engines don't get the mileage that the top tier teams do. Ya can't blame the guy for being a tad upset. He dominated all day while in his words, "cruising" only to get spanked by someone who could go 3 or 4 laps further on fuel. Personally, I hate fuel mileage races where the fastest car doesnt win.

Not a Robby fan, but I didn't see the race, so I can't comment. However, like you, I don't like races based on fuel mileage.

[jks812]

I hate the fuel milage races also. I like Robby and was really hoping he would win. I can understand him about upset about the difference in the milage, but he had the same chance as everyone else had to stop and get fuel.
Like Ken Schrader said on Inside Nextel tonight, Sunoco gives us the fuel and it's free and everybody was talking about being low on fuel.

But there is one thing I don't understand. Nascar has the same size fuel cell for all the cars. So why were they talking about different ones getting different amounts in them? Greg Biffle said after practice Sat., he and another driver( I forgot who) both ran out of fuel and coasted to the pumps. Biffle said his held 18+ gallons and the other car held 19+. Maybe thats why some was getting better milage, cause they were able, some how, to get more fuel?

[Lefty Noob]

Let's not also forget the NUMEROUS times he had a huge lead erased by a caution. Tough day all around for Robby.

Gordon definitely has a point though. "You look at the monitor and look at the guys who beat us and they were nowhere all day long," he's quoted as saying in this article. "With our rental program that we get, obviously we don't get the same mileage that [Greg] Biffle and [Ricky] Rudd do -- and we're gonna have to discuss that because we weren't gonna make it." I thought NASCAR was working hard with the COT to try and create an even playing field. Obviously, that's not the case.

[jks812]

I agree it was a tough day for him. And yes the cautions did fall at bad times for him. But he still could have pitted for fuel only and still had time to work his way up. His car was fast enough for that. He decided to take a chance and it didn't play out for him. I hate it for him, but they have to take some of the blame also for not pitting.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by jks812

I agree it was a tough day for him. And yes the cautions did fall at bad times for him. But he still could have pitted for fuel only and still had time to work his way up. His car was fast enough for that. He decided to take a chance and it didn't play out for him. I hate it for him, but they have to take some of the blame also for not pitting.

Robby made his last pit stop with 36 laps to go. should have been plenty of fuel to go the distance .. was watching to see how fast he would move up .. he didn't .. he was running 3 mph slower than his previous laps. in his post race interview he mentioned something about being told by his crew chief that they only had enough to go the distance if he "conserved" fuel. maybe his crew chief hadn't been calculating it right or they didn't get it full or something else happened. whatever it was, Robby claims he basically ran out as he crossed the finish line...

[titans#1]

i dont hate fuel milage races because i know once i say i hate it labonte will win one because of it and ill be the bigest fan of fuel milage races.dont forget that you cant just be fast in any race period you have to have some kind of strategy.why do you think j.johnson has bean running so good its because they always go in with a game plan.the tortis will always beat the hair unless the hair has a better pit strategy.

[Racer Duck]

having good pit stops helps .. Robby's were "barely meet requirements" .. 16 & 17 sec pit stops aren't gonna win many races...

[LSC9901]

I think I hate it when they complain about the race being a mileage race. It's the same for every team. To get better mileage you have to give up something. To get more speed you must give up something. Strategies and skill are all a part of the sport.

[NASCAR Gnome]

The reason why I like fuel mileage races is precisely because it forces the teams to think! The drivers are not just stampeding the track trying to go the fastest - heck if you want that then go watch drag racing!

Those of you complaining that fuel mileage races are not for the fast cars, you are 100% wrong! Look at the finishing time of the winning car. Did the winning car cover the required distance? If the answer is yes, then the winning car crossed the finish line first making him the fastest since he crossed the stripe before anyone else! How can you then say that the fastest car didn't win?

[kcoruol]

With all the hoopla surrounding the modifications done on Johnson and Gordon's car body, I can't believe that the enigine, transmission, fuel system are standardized to be exactly the same as well. Everybody should be getting the same mpg and have the same fuel capacity.

Am I wrong about this?

[King43STP]

Originally Posted by jks812

I hate the fuel milage races also. I like Robby and was really hoping he would win. I can understand him about upset about the difference in the milage, but he had the same chance as everyone else had to stop and get fuel.
Like Ken Schrader said on Inside Nextel tonight, Sunoco gives us the fuel and it's free and everybody was talking about being low on fuel.

But there is one thing I don't understand. Nascar has the same size fuel cell for all the cars. So why were they talking about different ones getting different amounts in them? Greg Biffle said after practice Sat., he and another driver( I forgot who) both ran out of fuel and coasted to the pumps. Biffle said his held 18+ gallons and the other car held 19+. Maybe thats why some was getting better milage, cause they were able, some how, to get more fuel?

I know how confusing it can be, but let me try to explain. NASCAR sets the measurements of the fuel cell area, lets say 28in wide x 14in deep x 12in tall. This is the outside measurements, now if you build this cell out of 1x wood you get x amount of liquid in there, right? Build it with 20ga steel or 16ga steel you get different amounts. So it comes down to what size material you use to meet those measurements. Still confused, well so am I.

[King43STP]

Originally Posted by titans#1

i dont hate fuel milage races because i know once i say i hate it labonte will win one because of it and ill be the bigest fan of fuel milage races.dont forget that you cant just be fast in any race period you have to have some kind of strategy.why do you think j.johnson has bean running so good its because they always go in with a game plan.the tortis will always beat the hair unless the hair has a better pit strategy.

I like them also, I won at least 50 races by mileage in my years of racing.

[King43STP]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

I think I hate it when they complain about the race being a mileage race. It's the same for every team. To get better mileage you have to give up something. To get more speed you must give up something. Strategies and skill are all a part of the sport.

Right, all teams had a choice of carbs, either 750cfm or 850cfm. That choice is what made the difference.