[jks812]

Mike Brown, general manager at Bill Davis Racing, recently submitted a plan to NASCAR to change qualifying. Instead of guaranteeing the top 35 in points a starting spot each week, Brown's plan would put more emphasis on qualifying. The top 31 in speed make the field. The final 12 spots would go to the highest remaining cars in car owner points not already in the field. The only champion's provisional would go to the defending champion. Since that driver likely would be among the top 12 in car owner points if he wasn't fast enough, this would all but eliminate the provisional.


I like the way this guy thinks.But we know we can only wish it was this way.

[Quality88]

I still think it should be the fastest 43.... if you can't run what ya brung then go home.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by Quality88

I still think it should be the fastest 43.... if you can't run what ya brung then go home.

Agreed, but this is a step in the right direction. Baby steps, I guess.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Agreed, but this is a step in the right direction. Baby steps, I guess.

It's only in the right direction if Francy-poo doesn't take offense to someone comin up with an idea that is better than his. I thnk it is a step in the right direction.... only problem is I think it will damage France's ego that someone came up with an idea that wasn't his.

[jks812]

I think it should be the fastest 43 too. But 31 would be a good start. Heck compared to what they got now, top 20 would be a good start. Your top tier teams would still make it in the race, but it would give alot of others a chance also. Which is why they won't do it. But it sure would be nice if they would.

[oncea3fan]

nascar said this was to help bring new teams in to nascar, well it ain't even close to helping new teams.
I doubt we'll ever see the fastest 43 has a rule, but how about reversing the rule to the fastest 35 and then line up by points with out the champions provisional.

[Racer Duck]

if you remember...

it was the owners who complained to NASCAR (on behalf of their sponsors) to do something to help the top running cars who had an "occasional" bad day qualifying. NASCAR gave them "the Chosen".

NASCAR won't change that until the owners ask them to.

now an owner has .. but will other owners agree???

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

if you remember...

it was the owners who complained to NASCAR (on behalf of their sponsors) to do something to help the top running cars who had an "occasional" bad day qualifying. NASCAR gave them "the Chosen".

NASCAR won't change that until the owners ask them to.

now an owner has .. but will other owners agree???

My answer is tough crap. If you're fast you race. If not you're a spectator.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

My answer is tough crap. If you're fast you race. If not you're a spectator.

Amen!.........

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

My answer is tough crap. If you're fast you race. If not you're a spectator.

but what about <gulp> "the Chosen"?

oh, I get it. that's for everybody who's not "Chosen". Good Plan!!! <applause>

[jks812]

I don't think there should be a chosen. If Jr or Gordon don't make it in the top 43 fastest, send them home. So the fans get upset. As we know, we get upset and we get over it. It might would make them tighten up the next time. Make them work to be in the race. If they have to have a gauranteed set, I say gaurantee the top 10 a starting spot.

[clutch]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

but what about <gulp> "the Chosen"?

oh, I get it. that's for everybody who's not "Chosen". Good Plan!!! <applause>

I've said it before and I'll say it again......Changes will be made to the top35 rule before next season ...thats my prediction

[Jeffrey4318]

If a change isn't made I hope the top 35 rule comes back to bite Nascar in the rear. Remember at the beginning of the year when Dale Jr had all the bad luck and was almost out of the top 35. I was just rooting that he not make a race. Don't get me wrong I like Jr to a point, but I just wanted the rule that Nascar made to keep their brightest star out of the race.

[King43STP]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey4318

If a change isn't made I hope the top 35 rule comes back to bite Nascar in the rear. Remember at the beginning of the year when Dale Jr had all the bad luck and was almost out of the top 35. I was just rooting that he not make a race. Don't get me wrong I like Jr to a point, but I just wanted the rule that Nascar made to keep their brightest star out of the race.

Jr is alright in my book also, not like his daddy, but OK. But lets look at his qualifying positions for a minute. Race 1 22nd, 2 4th, 3 28th, 4 21st, 5 31st, 6 8th, 7 rain, 8 15th, 9 42nd, 10 7th, 11 21st, 12 4th, 13 2nd, 14 13th, 15 23rd, 16 3rd. Those are positions on speed not where he started. Now lets look at Ward Burton. Race 1 30th, 2 36th, 3 30th, 4 33rd, 5 14th, 6 49th, 7 rain, 8 35th, 9 15th, 10 24th, 11 33rd, 12 39th, 13 13th, 14 20th, 15 45th, 16 36th. Now with just those two drivers Jr would have made all the races without the help of the top 35. Ward on the other hand would have missed just three races. That's my take on the top 35 Entitlement.

[Souporscotty]

As far as the "Go fast or go home' thing; I think we've beat this dead horse to a fine powder.