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Old 06-23-2007, 10:53 PM
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Thumbs down Rockwell Automation

If anyone here watched the Busch race at Milwaukee, you know what I'm talking about. Aric Almirola qualifys the 20 car on the pole, runs in the top 3 until 60 laps into it, when they put Denny Hamlin in the car who got there late from Infineon..............because the corporate Bozos wanted him to win in front of them, not Aric in his own car. What a crock! I feel so bad for Aric who was visibly upset when he got out. Even Hamlin and the crew chief said they didnt want to change drivers.
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Old 06-23-2007, 11:00 PM
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I watched it. I thought it was alot of BS too. If Aric was good enough to qualify and start the race, he was good enough to stay in the car.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:59 AM
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just goes to prove its about the money now, not the racing.
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Old 06-24-2007, 10:13 AM
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just goes to prove its about the money now, not the racing.
You got that right! I wanted Scott Wimmer to win so bad, just to deflate the Rockwell brass' ego. That whole scenerio was one of the worst I have seen in racing. Even Rusty and the other announcers were saying its not right as they were changing drivers. Like you said, its not about the racing anymore..........its about who's signing the checks.
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Old 06-24-2007, 10:22 AM
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For those that did not watch the race, here is a good rundown of it.....

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Old 06-24-2007, 10:23 AM
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Even Denny didn't want them to swap. He had went to Steven Wallace's pit cause he was sick and Denny was planning on getting in his car and driving for him.
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Re: Rockwell Automation

I'm more upset by the fact that I actually watched the cup lite figuring the Busch regulars had a good chance at racing each other for a win with only one competetive buschwacker in the field (wound up being two), but nope, I was wrong for thinking that. Scott Wimmer won last night as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:17 PM
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Even Denny didn't want them to swap. He had went to Steven Wallace's pit cause he was sick and Denny was planning on getting in his car and driving for him.
yes, if Steven had gotten out of his car, the sponsor required driver swap would never have happened.

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I'm more upset by the fact that I actually watched the cup lite figuring the Busch regulars had a good chance at racing each other for a win with only one competetive buschwacker in the field (wound up being two), but nope, I was wrong for thinking that. Scott Wimmer won last night as far as I'm concerned.
only in your heart. on paper it's Aric.
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only in your heart. on paper it's Aric.
Yes, but I'm sure Aric sure doesn't feel like he won anything.
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Old 06-24-2007, 11:11 PM
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Yes, but I'm sure Aric sure doesn't feel like he won anything.
why is everyone so down because Aric got to drive in a race that he wasn't scheduled to? and gets a WIN for doing so!!!

reminds me of an officemate I had who sold some stock. when I asked if she got the price she wanted, she said she did. a week later the stock went up and she was down in the dumps over "what she lost!" I reminded her she hadn't lost anything .. she had gotten exactly what she wanted...

Aric had a windfall of 60 or so laps of competition in class A equipment plus a win! quite a bit more than he was promised... he was, after all, a substitute, a temp, a fill-in...
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why is everyone so down because Aric got to drive in a race that he wasn't scheduled to? and gets a WIN for doing so!!!

Because he was pulled out of the car, while doing well in it. Yes, Denny was supposed to drive the car, but he was late and they already started the race. If it had not been for the Lucky Dog rule, I doubt Hamlin would have won it since they went down a lap for the driver change. I have been following racing, including pitting for a Late Model and Modified team for over 20 years and have never seen anything like this before.
Sure, drivers have been pulled for running poorly, being ill, etc, but not because some Corporate CEO wants a certain poster boy to take the trophy.

If you were Aric, how would you like to tell your grandkids, "This is a pic of my first win"......

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Old 06-24-2007, 11:51 PM
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And this is one problem with cup guys also running busch.Cup guy is gonna be late so they put a Busch guy in a Busch car, Cup guy shows up, sponsor throws a hissy fit and we take Busch guy out of Busch car and put Cup guy in it. I fully understand why it's called Busch series and Cup series instead of just Nascar Series.
Besides Denny has missed some of the Busch races this year anyway, so what was one more gonna hurt? Obviously it hasn't been to important to the Rockwell guys that he race every race.
Yes Aric gets listed as the winner. But he'll be known as the one that won a race that he didn't even finish. I'm sure they all want their first win to be like that.
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Because he was pulled out of the car, while doing well in it. Yes, Denny was supposed to drive the car, but he was late and they already started the race. If it had not been for the Lucky Dog rule, I doubt Hamlin would have won it since they went down a lap for the driver change. I have been following racing, including pitting for a Late Model and Modified team for over 20 years and have never seen anything like this before.
Sure, drivers have been pulled for running poorly, being ill, etc, but not because some Corporate CEO wants a certain poster boy to take the trophy.

If you were Aric, how would you like to tell your grandkids, "This is a pic of my first win"......

with all your experience on a race team, you should understand when the big sponsors say "Jump!" .. the only acceptable reply is "How High?"

It doesn't matter how you or anyone else feels about what happened. They did what they had a right to do: they used their financial clout to get their way. selfish? yes. a rotten thing to do to a young talented driver? absolutely. and I'm sure tomorrow morning their PR department will try to find a way to make the bad taste in everyone's mouth go away...

if Aric wants to play in the big leagues, he'd better get used to disappointments, learn to accept the bad with the good. focus pursuing his goals and understand: like it or not, fair or not, that's the way life is...

and, if Aric is so emotionally distraught over the circumstances of the win, he can always forfeit. but then that might not be good for his career.
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with all your experience on a race team, you should understand when the big sponsors say "Jump!" .. the only acceptable reply is "How High?"
Wasn't there a time where sponsors new their place, shut their mouths, and was happy when the car was doin good no matter who was in the damn car. I believe durin that time race teams told the sponsor what they could do with their thoughts(and it was medically possible).
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:10 AM
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Wasn't there a time where sponsors new their place, shut their mouths, and was happy when the car was doin good no matter who was in the damn car. I believe durin that time race teams told the sponsor what they could do with their thoughts(and it was medically possible).
I just read the interview with JD Gibbs on NASCAR.com. he said the team decided, collectively, that Aric should hand over the wheel to Denny. it was a TEAM DECISION. the sponsor had nothing to do with it!!!
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