[MIKE28]

What is the deal with Sprint taking over for Nextel? What happen to longevity like Winston?

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by MIKE28

What is the deal with Sprint taking over for Nextel? What happen to longevity like Winston?

No such thing in this day and age. Sprint made Nextel an offer it couldn't refuse. Only thing is I know for a fact people that are leaving Nextel for the fact that it's sprint now. They were starting to experience billing issues like they had with sprint. I know 6 people in a matter of a month have paid the early leave fee to go to Verizon to get away from Sprint. Eventually sprint will go under and we will have a new sponsor for the cup series.

[jks812]

So they raise cane about Cingular selling out to AT&T and changing their name, and they're doing the same?

[bears9]

Originally Posted by jks812

So they raise cane about Cingular selling out to AT&T and changing their name, and they're doing the same?

yep they are but i garuntee and if still on this site on record that it wont be the Spriint Cup anymore

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by jks812

So they raise cane about Cingular selling out to AT&T and changing their name, and they're doing the same?

I believe AT&T already had cingular... they just changed the name.

[Jeffrey4318]

Here is the deal. Nextel had the original contract with Nascar. Sprint and Nextel merged, now Sprint holds the contract with Nascar. I'm sure their were probably options for Nascar to break the contract, but why would they with all that $$$ they are making?

When Nascar and Nextel made the contract Alltel and Cingular got grandfathered into the sport. Nextel had exclusive rights to be the only cell phone carrier in Nascar. Because Alltel and Cingular were already in the sport they get to stay, but can't move teams, and once they terminate their contracts with their current teams they can't come back into the sport. So when At&t and Cingular merged I guess Nascar said they that At&t couldn't honor the same contract that Cingular had. Nascar said that they would have keep the Cingular name on the car. At&t didn't agree, because they wanted to get rid of the Cingular name.

[Nevadastars]

So, it will be the Sprint Cup? It was hard enough getting used to Nextel Cup after being Winston for so many years.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by MIKE28

What is the deal with Sprint taking over for Nextel? What happen to longevity like Winston?

In case you haven't noticed, the telecommunications industry is about as stable as your basic Hollywood marriage.
The minute something comes along that longs like it "might" have more, and quicker, profitability, all bets are off, the legal beagles start finding ways for contracts to be broken, commitment and loyalty goes out the window.

I still rue the day in 1972 when RJR got deeply involved with NASCAR and started things on this slimy, slippery corporate-controled slope we have now. But one thing you can say about RJR; they lived up to their commitments with NASCAR and were loyal to those commitments to a fault.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey4318

Here is the deal. Nextel had the original contract with Nascar. Sprint and Nextel merged, now Sprint holds the contract with Nascar. I'm sure their were probably options for Nascar to break the contract, but why would they with all that $$$ they are making?

When Nascar and Nextel made the contract Alltel and Cingular got grandfathered into the sport. Nextel had exclusive rights to be the only cell phone carrier in Nascar. Because Alltel and Cingular were already in the sport they get to stay, but can't move teams, and once they terminate their contracts with their current teams they can't come back into the sport. So when At&t and Cingular merged I guess Nascar said they that At&t couldn't honor the same contract that Cingular had. Nascar said that they would have keep the Cingular name on the car. At&t didn't agree, because they wanted to get rid of the Cingular name.

Good explanation, Jeffery. Easy to understand. What I don't especially get though, and this leads me to believe that there is more going on here than a simple law suit, is the fact that AT&T has an out. AT&T could keep their logo and name on the car legally IF they promoted something besides wireless. They could promote their AT&T land-line systems, their DSL Internet system, or their DIRECTV systems, with no problem. However, AT&T steadfastly insists that their wireless systems be featured on the car?

I understand both sides of the argument (rights of exclusivity v. rights to freely advertise) and see merits to both. I, personally, have a rabid dislike of cell phones, what they represent and the downward spiral of public manners which they encourage, and would like to see both, plus AllTel just go away. But, sadly, live "reality" TV, it looks like we're stuck with them for years to come. The whole thing reminds me of two kids on the playground arguing over something trivial. Then the principal (read: NASCAR) steps in to show both kids who is REALLY boss.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey4318

Here is the deal. Nextel had the original contract with Nascar. Sprint and Nextel merged, now Sprint holds the contract with Nascar. I'm sure their were probably options for Nascar to break the contract, but why would they with all that $$$ they are making?

When Nascar and Nextel made the contract Alltel and Cingular got grandfathered into the sport. Nextel had exclusive rights to be the only cell phone carrier in Nascar. Because Alltel and Cingular were already in the sport they get to stay, but can't move teams, and once they terminate their contracts with their current teams they can't come back into the sport. So when At&t and Cingular merged I guess Nascar said they that At&t couldn't honor the same contract that Cingular had. Nascar said that they would have keep the Cingular name on the car. At&t didn't agree, because they wanted to get rid of the Cingular name.

So, AT&T files suit to be allowed to replace their Cingular logo with the AT&T logo, claiming their right to rebrand does not violate the terms of the grandfathered contract. Lots of back and forth bickering until a federal judge steps in and slaps an injunction on Nextel/Sprint/NA$CAR so AT&T can run their logo on the 31 car. The injuncted group huddles, NA$CAR files a counter-suit against AT&T.

Meanwhile, Alltel sits on the sideline (with some other players who "want in") silently hoping it swings their way.

By the time this gets thru all the appeals, etc., the telecommunications players will have rebranded themselves again and there'll be none of the original players except NA$CAR....

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

So, AT&T files suit to be allowed to replace their Cingular logo with the AT&T logo, claiming their right to rebrand does not violate the terms of the grandfathered contract. Lots of back and forth bickering until a federal judge steps in and slaps an injunction on Nextel/Sprint/NA$CAR so AT&T can run their logo on the 31 car. The injuncted group huddles, NA$CAR files a counter-suit against AT&T.

Meanwhile, Alltel sits on the sideline (with some other players who "want in") silently hoping it swings their way.

By the time this gets thru all the appeals, etc., the telecommunications players will have rebranded themselves again and there'll be none of the original players except NA$CAR....

I know you said this rather "tongue-in-cheek," but I can almost see it happening. Sorry, I just don't see trusting ANY of these telecomm's any more than I'd trust any business with ".com" after its name.

But then I'm of the generation where the Visa commercial which shows that paying cash actually slows up and degrades business, is an insult. So, what do I know?

[Racer Duck]

heh, heh, heh .. I'm the kinda guy that'll go to the ATM with my VISA to get cash just so I can gum up the works for those too slick, plastic joints....;

[T_StewartFan]

It's all about the Money now.... if you ask me I like winston more

[Quality88]

Grumble, Corporate Sponsorship, Grumble..... If AT&T loses they'll end up buying Sprint/Nextel or what the hell they want to be called.... pi$$ on it.....

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Grumble, Corporate Sponsorship, Grumble..... If AT&T loses they'll end up buying Sprint/Nextel or what the hell they want to be called.... pi$$ on it.....

aw, don't hold back. tell us how you really feel