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Old 09-08-2006, 03:11 AM
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yeah??? Too bad Jarrett fans have had more reasons to cry the past 5 years then Jeff Gordon fans.
Cry?... Nah they have become more used to it... we are just waiting for a turn around.... You got to better than that Dupont
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:49 PM
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Sorry DuPont...I just HAD to share this.......

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Sorry DuPont...I just HAD to share this.......

Dang lady you sure you got enough Tony pictures.

I like this picture of you.
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:23 PM
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Dang lady you sure you got enough Tony pictures.

I like this picture of you.
Aaah.. I was just sharing the luv with lilSexy...her boy had a bad day... I don't know what happed, I just kept finding more and more cool Stewie pics. BTW this SMOKE Chick one you jut posted .....I PM'd that to a big Smoke fan we both know...
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:18 PM
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Re: Ya know, I used to hate Jeff Gordon..

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A lot of it had to do with instant success and not being a Southern Boy. I believe he came into Cup at 21 years old and to a top shelf team with a wizard (Ray Evernham) as his crew chief. People just plain got tired of seeing him win and sit on poles, week after week. Not to mention he became a media darling with his wholesome looking face and ex-Miss Winston wife, Brooke. Its like everything was handed to him on a silver platter, and it didnt sit well with a lot of the longtime Winston Cup fans.

Its kind of like the guys that dont like the Patriots, or the Yankees. You just get tired of seeing the same guys winning all the time. Then there are some who got on the Gordon bandwagon because its easy to cheer for a winner. I believe his dominating days are over though, since the competition has risen to the level of the 24 team. In the 90s, I have seen Ray change two tires on a pit stop, when everyone else changed 4........and Gordon was still the fastest car and of course came out of the pits in front. Jack Rousch even accused Evernham of doctoring up their tires. It was that kind of dominance that turned a lot of people off to Gordon, some figured they were cheating and getting away with it.

Myself, I used to really hate Gordon, but these days, I tolerate him because he is not winning every other race like he used to. But I will never be a fan of his.
Wait a minute, so you once hated Gordon because he was winning races and dominating in the 90's? Interesting.

The fact is, people hate Jeff Gordon for more reasons because of what people have stated, but they won't say it because they know its the truth. People say Jr is better than Gordon, when Gordon won 3 championships in 6 years, and Jr has been in Nextel Cup for how many years? 6, and how many championships has he won? 0. How many championships does Gordon have? 4, and he would have had 5 if NASCAR was under the Winston Cup points system. Jeff Gordon will have more wins than Dale Earnlardt in a shorter time span than Earnhardt got his wins. And the fact is people will hate him more if he passes Earnhardt for most championships, which is absolutely stupid to hate someone for. Dale Earnhardt did the same thing, he raced to win, and he moved people out of the way to do it, but I don't see people whining about Earnhardt, but yet people whine about Gordon when he does it. The fact of the matter is Jeff Gordon is one of the best drivers in the history of NASCAR, but people won't admit it for some reason.

My comments wasn't meant to be offensive, but some people need to take a look at the stats and show atleast some respect for a driver that has accomplished alot through his career.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:25 PM
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Wait a minute, so you once hated Gordon because he was winning races and dominating in the 90's? Interesting.

The fact is, people hate Jeff Gordon for more reasons because of what people have stated, but they won't say it because they know its the truth. People say Jr is better than Gordon, when Gordon won 3 championships in 6 years, and Jr has been in Nextel Cup for how many years? 6, and how many championships has he won? 0. How many championships does Gordon have? 4, and he would have had 5 if NASCAR was under the Winston Cup points system. Jeff Gordon will have more wins than Dale Earnlardt in a shorter time span than Earnhardt got his wins. And the fact is people will hate him more if he passes Earnhardt for most championships, which is absolutely stupid to hate someone for. Dale Earnhardt did the same thing, he raced to win, and he moved people out of the way to do it, but I don't see people whining about Earnhardt, but yet people whine about Gordon when he does it. The fact of the matter is Jeff Gordon is one of the best drivers in the history of NASCAR, but people won't admit it for some reason.

My comments wasn't meant to be offensive, but some people need to take a look at the stats and show atleast some respect for a driver that has accomplished alot through his career.
Hey Mike24, dont even waste your time, i've tried time after time and really they only tell me they hate Jeff cause he whines and crashes too many guys???? Very strange to HATE someone because of that.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:31 PM
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Hey Mike24, dont even waste your time, i've tried time after time and really they only tell me they hate Jeff cause he whines and crashes too many guys???? Very strange to HATE someone because of that.
Yeah, I know. I don't understand it either, because Dale Earnhardt did the exact same thing - he moved people out of the way to win, thats racing. But when Earnhardt did it, fans cheered, when Gordon does it, fans boo.
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:35 PM
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Yeah, I know. I don't understand it either, because Dale Earnhardt did the exact same thing - he moved people out of the way to win, thats racing. But when Earnhardt did it, fans cheered, when Gordon does it, fans boo.
Yeah you got the guy people love to hate. Don't let it get to you. As I told Dupont don't take it so personally, Gordon's fan base is second to Dale Jr. Thicken your skin and hang tight. Have fun this is a great forum. Check out all the other sports on the forum besides nascar and don't miss my favorite in the celler, you might be surprised what you find down there.
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Wait a minute, so you once hated Gordon because he was winning races and dominating in the 90's? Interesting.

There is a lot more to it than that. It started when he duped Bill Davis, who had groomed him in a FORD for Cup.

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Earnhardt had class............Gordon is classless.
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There is a lot more to it than that. It started when he duped Bill Davis, who had groomed him in a FORD for Cup.
I am not going to fault a guy for duping Bill Davis in favor of Hendricks. I mean COME ON!!
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:57 PM
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I am not going to fault a guy for duping Bill Davis in favor of Hendricks. I mean COME ON!!
We could beat this dead horse forever, but Davis is the one who got him into Stock Cars from open wheelers and put him in a Busch car to nuture him into Cup. But the almighty (pardoned by Clinton) Hendrick $$ snatched him out from under Davis. Like I said, that is where my (and many others) dislike for Gordon began. It just escalated from there.......especially being a devote Earnhardt Sr. fan.
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ok--so the choices were you drive for an "also ran" owner for probably mediocre money or for a front running owner for big $$. Not much of a decision to be made there, IMO. Loyalty only gets you so far. Some times you have to take care of yourself.
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ok--so the choices were you drive for an "also ran" owner for probably mediocre money or for a front running owner for big $$. Not much of a decision to be made there, IMO. Loyalty only gets you so far. Some times you have to take care of yourself.
And B-I-N-G-O was his nameo
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Old 09-09-2006, 05:15 PM
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ok--so the choices were you drive for an "also ran" owner for probably mediocre money or for a front running owner for big $$. Not much of a decision to be made there, IMO. Loyalty only gets you so far. Some times you have to take care of yourself.

I guess I was brought up differently. I was taught to respect the people who got you where you are, not to discard them like an old shoe. If he is such a great driver his fans think he is, wouldn't his talent have brought Bill Davis racing to the next level?
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Old 09-09-2006, 05:20 PM
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I guess I was brought up differently. I was taught to respect the people who got you where you are, not to discard them like an old shoe. If he is such a great driver his fans think he is, wouldn't his talent have brought Bill Davis racing to the next level?
Hes a great driver but he cant fix the problems Bill Davis Racing has, it is proven in this sport its 40% driver and 60% car. NO DOUBT. Look at Dale Jarret and Elliott Sadler, great driver is ****ty cars,
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