[obrien]

other than the people they employ, it is doing nothing for our economy. They money toyota is making is not being spent here in the US. The parts for their vehicles are not made in the US. So how does that help our economy? Anyone who is proud to work for Japanese car company should be embarrased to call themselves American.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by obrien

other than the people they employ, it is doing nothing for our economy. They money toyota is making is not being spent here in the US. The parts for their vehicles are not made in the US. So how does that help our economy? Anyone who is proud to work for Japanese car company should be embarrased to call themselves American.

The people who work for them should not be embarrased to call themselves Americans. At least they assemble the cars here and give people here jobs that GMC and Ford and all took away when they shut down their plants one after another.
And by employing the people they do, yes it helps the economy. Because now they can spend money. And it's not just the people they employ, it's also all their suppliers too that employ people.

[LSC9901]

This is an article written in 1992, that's 15 years ago. The numbers are surely higher now.

Toyota Motor Corp. says it bought $4.43 billion worth of U.S.-made parts in fiscal 1992, a 40% increase over the previous year's $3.14 billion. Iwao Okijima, Toyota senior managing director in charge of purchasing, tells those attending the company's third North American Import Suppliers' Meeting that the automaker plans to raise that to $5.28 billion by fiscal 1994. Toyota also gave 13 suppliers awards at the meeting. Meanwhile, Honda of America Mfg. presented 59 companies with quality awards during its 11th annual Supplier Conference. HAM bought $2.93 billion in parts from U.S. suppliers in fiscal 1993 and by fiscal 1995 will purchase $4.5 billion annually.

Are you discussing fact or opinion ??

[obrien]

The only reason these companies build their crap over here is so they don't have to pay import tariffs. They could care less about the american economy.

Apperently you are thinking all american cars are no longer built here as well.

Toyota can say what they want about where they buy there parts, I want to see actual proof that they are doing so. I doubt very seriously they are buying more from US suppliers then they did back in the early 90s. More like less.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by obrien

The only reason these companies build their crap over here is so they don't have to pay import tariffs. They could care less about the american economy.

Apperently you are thinking all american cars are no longer built here as well.

Toyota can say what they want about where they buy there parts, I want to see actual proof that they are doing so. I doubt very seriously they are buying more from US suppliers then they did back in the early 90s. More like less.

I'm not saying they care about our economy. But the jobs help anyway.
I didn't say all american cars are no longer built here, although all of them aren't. Just that they have shut down their plants.
But whether they care about the economy or whatever has nothing to do with Nascar. As far as them struggling in Nascar, I'll be glad when they get it all worked out and start running better. And I believe they will before this year is over.

[RUSTYFAN2]

I do not think that Toyota wanted to do well their first year. Everyone accused them of "buying" their way in. And that they had too muck money to supply their teams. They want to appear to be struggling to keep people like Jack Roush from crying about them. Their performance will improve by next year considerably.

[Souporscotty]

Originally Posted by RUSTYFAN2

I do not think that Toyota wanted to do well their first year. Everyone accused them of "buying" their way in. And that they had too muck money to supply their teams. They want to appear to be struggling to keep people like Jack Roush from crying about them. Their performance will improve by next year considerably.

Like I said, they're sandbaggin'.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by obrien

The only reason these companies build their crap over here is so they don't have to pay import tariffs. They could care less about the american economy.

None the less it is feeding the American economy with products made in the US. The reasons why are another story.

Originally Posted by obrien

Apperently you are thinking all american cars are no longer built here as well.

Where did you see that written ?

Originally Posted by obrien

Toyota can say what they want about where they buy there parts, I want to see actual proof that they are doing so. I doubt very seriously they are buying more from US suppliers then they did back in the early 90s. More like less.

Exactly what is the proof you will believe ? Awards given to US compaines isn't enough ? I'm sure if you contacted Toyota or a local dealer they could offer you the info you are seeking.

[RUSTYFAN2]

Originally Posted by obrien

other than the people they employ, it is doing nothing for our economy. They money toyota is making is not being spent here in the US. The parts for their vehicles are not made in the US. So how does that help our economy? Anyone who is proud to work for Japanese car company should be embarrased to call themselves American.

That`s a little harsh!

[LSC9901]

I guess that means that working for Chrysler would be a no-no also. What about all the "American" cars built in Canada ???

[Racer Duck]

a little known fact .. a federal law actually. on the window sticker of every new car sold in the US is a number that is the percentage of parts in the car not made in the US.

Ride on down to your most favorite and least favorite new car dealer and check out the numbers on the brands you hate and the brands you love. Report back to us your findings... It'll be an interesting exercise.

Toyota just finished a new plant in San Antonio .. put a bunch of folks to work there .. property values skyrocked in the nearby corn fields. when did Ford or GM build their last new plant? (oh, I forgot, they're closing plants...) and why is it Daimler-Benz decided to dump Chrysler? (seems it was something about them not making a profit when given ample funding and every opportunity...)

Finally, I doubt there would be as much anger and hate directed against Mercedes, or BMW, or Jaguar, or even Ferarri if they decided to get into NA$CAR. I think a lot of it has to do with Toyota being a Japanese company...

[wardfan]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

Finally, I doubt there would be as much anger and hate directed against Mercedes, or BMW, or Jaguar, or even Ferarri if they decided to get into NA$CAR. I think a lot of it has to do with Toyota being a Japanese company...

Well Pearl Harbor is hard to forget

[obrien]

the only trucks assembled in mexico are avalanches and some colorados/h3s. no matter, GM sources 70 to 90% of their north american vehicles from american made parts, which is more than any other manufacturer. FACT. they have a company policy of BUY AMERICAN. 90%+ of the machine tools, welders, CNC equipment, etc etc, is all american built. not to mention the powertrain assemblys, casting facilitys, and everything else that goes along with building a car is right here. (like making a mold for a plastic AC knob a certain way mid production run so some cry baby fags will stop *****ing about the "feel")

Now, keep on buying that Japanese sh1t, and the domestic car companys will start shipping more jobs to cheap labor areas to compete. the Japanese believe in giving back, because they don't have crooked union leaders and politicians (among others) to pay. oh yea, and the pensions that GM pays to retirees is MORE than toyota pays ALL THEIR CURRENT employees. $2000 dollars each car before its even assembled.

i like all these people that scream how patriotic they are, then when it comes time to put their money up, they all of the sudden come up with some excuse to justify themselves. whatever, have fun selling your country out.

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by wardfan

Well Pearl Harbor is hard to forget

and you don't think Hiroshima was enough? or did you forget that?

[wardfan]

No, I didn't forget Hiroshima but it took Nagasaki for them the get the point