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Old 05-26-2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: Martin to sub for Jeff Gordon when baby arrives?

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Jeez this thread is getting pretty dumb. You think Gordon was the only driver to ever have a kid. If he was so concerned about having a baby during race season they should have thought about that when she decided to get pregnant. Simple fact is if he ain't in the car for whatever reason he dosn't get the points.
It really doesn't matter. It's not like it will hurt Gordon's chase status. He has a big enough points lead to where he can miss a race and not even lose the lead. Hopefully it doesn't come to that situation, and Gordon will be able to race. But if he has to miss a race, then he will.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:38 PM
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Re: Martin to sub for Jeff Gordon when baby arrives?

wait didnt martin drive a bush car for hendricks this year?
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:46 PM
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wait didnt martin drive a bush car for hendricks this year?
Yes he did. Drove Kyle's and has plans to drive it again later.
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: Martin to sub for Jeff Gordon when baby arrives?

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It can't be the first time this situation has come up. Why is it even an issue?
Agreed. I haven't quite got the direction that this thread is going.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:14 PM
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Re: Martin to sub for Jeff Gordon when baby arrives?

driver points go to the driver in the seat at the drop of the green flag. baby, injury, UFO's, WWIII, doesn't matter. It's a NA$CAR RULE. If Jeffy wants the points he needs to be in the car for the 1st lap.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:12 AM
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driver points go to the driver in the seat at the drop of the green flag. baby, injury, UFO's, WWIII, doesn't matter. It's a NA$CAR RULE. If Jeffy wants the points he needs to be in the car for the 1st lap.
If the baby isn't born by Sunday afternoon, I have no doubt he will be in the car.
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:59 PM
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here we go again.... lol. Before I respond, this goes to every single driver, not just Gordon.

Now, what I find wrong with your statement is you are comparing someone getting hurt to a birth, which they are completely different. If you are hurt, yes it is uncontrollable, but it also depends on how bad the injury is. A birth on the other hand is uncontrollable, so how can you predict that? Now maybe I'm in this so called "new school" fan base, but I believe that it is wrong to punish a driver in an uncontrollable situation, such as births and getting hurt. Why should NASCAR punish a driver for not starting the race in this type of situation? That makes NASCAR look like "well, racing is more important than attending a birth of your kid, so we won't give you the points." In my opinion, that sounds totally wrong. The same thing goes with Tony in 06. He should have been at home recovering from his injury, not risking it further because he had to start to get the points. Same thing goes with Jr, and any others. But if NASCAR wants to not award Gordon the points, as of now he has a big enough points lead where he can miss a race and not lose the lead. But it wouldn't affect his Chase status as you said, since the points are based on wins.

You say it depends on badly you are injured, why should that make a difference? Either way, it was still uncontrolable and unpredictable. Just like a birth being unpredictable and uncontrolable.
Nascar isn't "punishing" anybody for not taking the green flag, that's the rules and they knew them when they signed up for this profession. It's funny that throughout all the many years of racing that I've watched, this has never been blown out of proportion like it is being done with Gordo!!
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:01 PM
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You say it depends on badly you are injured, why should that make a difference? Either way, it was still uncontrolable and unpredictable. Just like a birth being unpredictable and uncontrolable.
Nascar isn't "punishing" anybody for not taking the green flag, that's the rules and they knew them when they signed up for this profession. It's funny that throughout all the many years of racing that I've watched, this has never been blown out of proportion like it is being done with Gordo!!
I've changed my mind about the situation lol

I believe if you don't start the race, you shouldn't get the points. I guess I was being a little biased lol.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:04 PM
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I've changed my mind about the situation lol

I believe if you don't start the race, you shouldn't get the points. I guess I was being a little biased lol.
Oh my God it's !!!!!!!!
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Re: Martin to sub for Jeff Gordon when baby arrives?

I think if everything goes as planned, which you never know if it will, they will induce labor on a Monday so Jeff can be there. Inducing labor happens everyday.
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I think if everything goes as planned, which you never know if it will, they will induce labor on a Monday so Jeff can be there. Inducing labor happens everyday.
From what I've heard Ingrid supports him 100 percent on his racing career, and from what I've heard she doesn't want him to miss a race regardless of the situation. Jeff said he will if this situation does arise.
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Re: Martin to sub for Jeff Gordon when baby arrives?

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I've changed my mind about the situation lol

I believe if you don't start the race, you shouldn't get the points. I guess I was being a little biased lol.

Mike you better be careful. We may start liking you if you keep making these human admissions of errors !!!
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Mike you better be careful. We may start liking you if you keep making these human admissions of errors !!!
Yeah, I better stop!
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I think if everything goes as planned, which you never know if it will, they will induce labor on a Monday so Jeff can be there. Inducing labor happens everyday.
Just because it happens every day doesn't make it right. Increasing the risks to mother and child just to make a race is not too smart. I find it hard to believe anyone would rank any job above the safety of their child and spouse. I just don't see what all the fuss is. I would think the choice is pretty clear. I wouldn't think any husband would want his wife to go through the extra physical and mental stress of inducing labor for a job - any job, even a race car driver. It's a race. He's not saving the world or solving world hunger. He's not a world leader. It's just a race and the world won't stop turning if he's not there. I hope we never know, actually, because it's a private issue between the two of them.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:29 AM
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Just because it happens every day doesn't make it right. Increasing the risks to mother and child just to make a race is not too smart. I find it hard to believe anyone would rank any job above the safety of their child and spouse. I just don't see what all the fuss is. I would think the choice is pretty clear. I wouldn't think any husband would want his wife to go through the extra physical and mental stress of inducing labor for a job - any job, even a race car driver. It's a race. He's not saving the world or solving world hunger. He's not a world leader. It's just a race and the world won't stop turning if he's not there. I hope we never know, actually, because it's a private issue between the two of them.
I agree. I don't think you should put someone at that risk, and I know Jeff will not do that.
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