[checkerboard_charly]

but Nascar decided to wait on the caution. And then they threw it when Jeff Poo took the lead.


I was at the race and didnt realize this until i watched it on DVR. This is typical Nascar crap. Very pathetic.



From Nascar.com.....

From Gary ...
I think NASCAR just made Tony Stewart's point for him when David Reutimann blew up at Talladega. NASCAR claims it is throwing cautions for the safety of the drivers, but when a car blew up running better than mid pack at Talladega -- the fastest most bunched up track on the circuit -- NASCAR didn't throw the caution until three-fourths of a lap later when Jeff Gordon passed Jaime McMurray. If NASCAR is so safety-minded then an immediate caution would have been called for the protection of the drivers behind the No. 00 since he was putting fluid on the track, and he must have been for them to use that much oil dry. McMurray should have been celebrating today not Hendrick Motorsports and Jeff. I think I am about done watching the Hendrick show anyway; I'll just write off the HotPass as a mistake. Football starts in a few months anyway.
Can't argue with your take; I wondered the same thing. It all boils down to consistency, and the only thing consistent about the yellow flag is its inconsistencies. In this case, Reutimann was pinned against the outside wall with smoke billowing. He had a long way to go -- through heavy traffic, no less -- before he was out of harm's way. That, to me, seemed to be a text book yellow.

[checkerboard_charly]

Must be a ton of Gordon lovers on here.

[nascarfan24]

TOTAL AND COMPLETE BS! Today on Inside Nextel Cup they talked about this.NASCAR threw the caution out late because they wanted to see the race go green and Reutimann was in the middle of the pack when it happened so NASCAR had to wait and see if oil was indeed coming out of the car. And plus, one of the most obvious things, uh maybe Jeff just had a good car. McMurrey's crew chief sold him to shake the car a little on the restart because he was low on fuel. So he held up everyone past the 48 and 2 anyway, contributing to the tony and gililand wreck. So i think physics states that Jeff Gordon (you know, the POLE SITTER!) would have blown his doors off on the outside and won anyway! Anyone that thinks that NASCAR is this giant evil monster that helps fix races, NEEDS A CHECK UP FROM THE NECK UP! Now someone please tell me if i'm wrong. I seriously want to know if i'm right!

[checkerboard_charly]

Whatever dude. I just watched the tape. Say whatever you want about Jeffy. McMurray had the lead.

[SpaceCadet]

Originally Posted by checkerboard_charly

Must be a ton of Gordon lovers on here.

No, I just don't buy into these conspiracy theories and paranoia. It all boils down to everyone hating a winner. Gordon is a race winner and consistent performer, as are others. I haven't figured out why, but it just seems to be human nature to hate winners, including me. I'd like to see someone besides HMS in Victory Lane. But did NASCAR conspire to have Gordon win the race? No. I think "Gary" has too much time on his hands.

[checkerboard_charly]

Sorry i have a different opinon.

[jks812]

I'm not saying they did so Jeff could win( everybody knows he is not Nascars golden boy anymore), but they did wait longer to throw the caution than they have for others that were smoking. I would think when he was in mid pack doing that is when they would throw it and slow everyone down instead of waiting til he was by himself. And fuel was an issue for alot of the drivers, mostly because of how many times they kept waving off the restart. I don't care that Jeff won. It could have been Jimmie or Jr. or whoever, I'd still think it wasn't done exactly right.

[checkerboard_charly]

My point exactly.

I think the conspiracy theorists need to find a new sport, doesnt matter who wins or who does well, there is always someone claiming there is a smoking gun!
I could, by the very same reasoning, theorize that NASCAR was trying to prevent Gordon from winning. Not every engine blow up causes a caution flag, nor should it. Reutimann's engine was not the only one to blow up but most did not result in a caution. If I were a conspiracy theorist I could easily argue that NASCAR threw the caution when they seen that Gordon and Johnson were more than likely going to drive away and fight it out for the win amongst the two of them. Maybe NASCAR threw the caution to prevent that and to try to ensure a good finish, they threw the caution to prevent it, hoping that someone else would win.

[nascarfan24]

Originally Posted by jks812

I'm not saying they did so Jeff could win( everybody knows he is not Nascars golden boy anymore), but they did wait longer to throw the caution than they have for others that were smoking. I would think when he was in mid pack doing that is when they would throw it and slow everyone down instead of waiting til he was by himself. And fuel was an issue for alot of the drivers, mostly because of how many times they kept waving off the restart. I don't care that Jeff won. It could have been Jimmie or Jr. or whoever, I'd still think it wasn't done exactly right.

Originally Posted by checkerboard_charly

My point exactly.

yeah that's why your signature says otherwise!

[jks812]

Originally Posted by nascarfan24

yeah that's why your signature says otherwise!

Who's signature? Actually I don't mind that Gordon won, as long as it wasn't Johnson. And I also said Nascar didn't do it to help Gordon. In case you haven't noticed he's not their golden boy anymore since Johnson came along. I just didn't understand the waiting to throw the caution.

[nascarfan24]

nascar wanted a good finish. a lot of the drivers said that they did the right thing by waiting. they said that oil doesn't come out every time and plus nascar couldn't see it until all of the cars were gone.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by nascarfan24

nascar wanted a good finish. a lot of the drivers said that they did the right thing by waiting. they said that oil doesn't come out every time and plus nascar couldn't see it until all of the cars were gone.

the drivers that agreed are those not willin to speak their minds in fear they will get fined for doin so(i.e. Tony Stewart). Second.... How many times has a car blew up and an immediate caution has come out. It's happened several times this season already. Watchin news reports on ESPN and even GORDON fans said the race was setup at the end. Before any 24 fans start in... don't give me any conspiracy theory BS... The Dega race is a prime example of why the ratings are falling... and fans are leavin the sport.... the fans (for the most part) are not stupid or blind.

[nascarfan24]

i want to know when Gordon said the race was set up! don't you think nascar would talk to jeff for blowing their "secret"? come on, nascar is not doing anything to fix races!

[jks812]

Originally Posted by nascarfan24

i want to know when Gordon said the race was set up! don't you think nascar would talk to jeff for blowing their "secret"? come on, nascar is not doing anything to fix races!

They said Gordon fans. About the closest Jeff has come to saying that was that one race where they really threw trash ( i think it was last year). Caution came out and nascar said he was ahead of Jr. and gave him the race. Gordon even said on his radio that he hadn't passed Jr. before the caution came out and his crew chief said, nascar said you did and so we;ll take it. And again he said he hadn't.