[rose916]

so nascar.com has a new article about lowes motor speed way being paved and being a bit too fast
they think so fast that nascar may make it a restrictor plate track either for the next visit or the next few visits.

i dnt care too much for plate racing--its exciting

anyone against this?
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[Smoke+GibbsFan]

Anyone except me wonder why we call it racing anymore? Why has there got to be a limit? Driver saftey? Make the cars stronger, tracks wider, safer-barrier safer, but dont slow the cars down. Cast one vote against plate racing.

[rose916]

lol
ur right...taking power away from the car and all

they make such a big deal outta the plate races..mark martin is not a fan of plate racing (his talladega 05 remarks)

the drivers would all be 100% pi$$ed off if this did indeed happen to LMS

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[Smoke+GibbsFan]

DW got the plate thing going because he couldnt or was scared to run as fast as Elliot. I I mean can it be much worse hitting the wall at 210 mph than at 185 then getting slammed into by all the cars behind you?

[Wampinrock]

As I recall discussing this with DE once in Alaska, he mentioned that plate racing was dangerous promoting frequent accidents, difficulty in achieving racing speeds (often necessary when a pending confrontation ((accident)) was noted), removed the "racing" element from the driver and generally was a very bad idea. We have lived with the plate for quite a few years now, and I don't recall any quality driver endorsing the restriction. How many "secratariat's" or "Man-o-War" competitors could have achieved victory if indeed they were hobbled? I am against the practice, but am not really qualified to make that judgement...but most all of the racing drivers and crews are also apparently against the practice and they DO know best. Again, we look to the NASCAR management for the erosion of the sport. Racing means getting there first and fastest... (none of the above is ignoring safety should and must be first). You know, sometimes I think that the really qualified drivers, teams and owners should consider creating their own, pure, racing league...NASCAR is good,, but appears to be bending toward the almighty $$$. I often pause to reflect at the real truth behind thier claim that the fan is foremost.....

[LSC9901]

Great post and nice points of view. I totally agree and am against retrictor plates. They cause as much destruction as they prevent. While we all love seeing a 15 car pile up just for the sheer excitement we all get wound up when our driver innocently gets caught up in it. There must be a way that NASCAR can keep the speeds in check without bunching up the field. It seems insane when there are tracks that you can drive 200 plus MPH's and all 43 cars are in a bunch. That isn't racing, it is more like follow the leader .... at a very fast rate of speed.

I've had the joy and excitement of doing 170 plus around LMS and yes it seems fast and dangerous but having all 43 cars doing that in a small bunch has trouble written all over it. Find an alternative if you must control the speed.

[rose916]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

While we all love seeing a 15 car pile up just for the sheer excitement

lol
funny

dont you hate when people say they like seeing wrecks?<<non nascar fans that is

i hate that....sum people are shocked when i say i like nascar (im a girl in california and all) and then they proceed to say "i likethe wrecks" "i like seeing wrecks"

what sense does that make?
you like seeing someone hopes of winning go down the drain
you like seeing a 80 thosand dollar car die?
you like seeing someone get hurt?

silly people

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[Lefty Noob]

In a 3.29 AP article, Lowe's Motor Speedway track president Humpy Wheeler said "It would not surprise me if you saw a 197-mph lap." So there is indeed talk of using the plates to slow things down. On a side note, there's also question marks about the type of rubber to use, as Jimmie Johnson got a flat and went into the turn four wall during a Wednesday test run.

[Nevadastars]

I just don't understand why Nascar is so set on restrictor plates, knowing all the drivers hate them. The extra cost of the R&D that goes into plate engines really kills teams on smaller budgets. There is so many other ways they can slow these cars down without plates. They could have Goodyear build a hard compound 10" tire. It doesnt matter how much horsepower you have, with a narrower tire, you are not going to go as fast in the turns, nor have the traction coming off the turn. It would make it a real drivers race.

I think Nascar likes the big pack of cars because they feel its what people want to see and is good for ratings. I have noticed that most drivers do not badmouth the plate tracks like they used to, and I believe Nascar has instructed them to do keep quiet about it. The reasoning behind the "Car of Tomorrow" is that the cars will all be equal, and hence run in tight packs.........which Nascar obviously wants.

[Lefty Noob]

How about this, from Scott Riggs?

"It's going to be fast, but fast enough that we need restrictor plates? Absolutely not,'' Riggs told the AP yesterday. "That would be a horrible decision. We always set a new track record every time we go to a new surface. We expect the speeds to be faster. That's just how it is.''

[Wampinrock]

RE: Nevadastars...with all of the obvious moves by NASCAR to create an IROC-type" show for the fans...recognizing the absolute control over drivers/teams and such...does this point to the need to consider a move toward a driver/team controlled organization that would, indeed, reinstall the pure racing that we have grown to love and enjoy? We should keep in mind that the growing popularity of the stock car racing was the association of the brand name vehicle, the pure guts and glory of the drivers and crews and all of the excitement that went with it. Surely, some of the sponsors would like to see more of an individualistic race-day in lieu of the "everyone is on a same playing filed" type of show. I remember back in the early '90's that Ford had one hell of an engine program and Chevy-Pontiac-Olds were crying and digging all over the place to 'catch up.' While NASCAR did play around with the rear spoiler etc, mostly they sat back and watched while the GM cars figgered out the answer..then they were competitive and smiles were found on the teams owners, sponsors and drivers...the point here is that if left alone, the teams will soon figure out how to get back into contention. The point here is to basically, leave them the heck alone and racing in it's coveted form will happen! While I am a G.M. fan, I also recognize that on any given day, on any given track, someone else will be dominant....hey NASCAR...let them do it! Pretty soon, we will find that the almighty NASCAR (read that third generation France) will close all tracks but the super tracks, we will have the generic cars (future cars) and every race will be a rubber-stamp of the last race...this will be a crappy move as far as I am concerned. Variation and and individuality are the core to the sport...that is why they race in the first place....maybe time for a complete change and get France's attention...

[Smoke+GibbsFan]

To quote WampinRock
"I think that the really qualified drivers, teams and owners should consider creating their own, pure, racing league"



I would watch it. I say let'em run. I am sure there are an abundance of tracks that would love to have them too.

[rose916]

^^^
what do you mean? seperate from nascar completely??
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