[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Mike24

I agree with the statement in bold. But, some people think otherwise.

Tony thinks he can do whatever he wants. And when he can't do whatever he wants, he's going to whine about it. Like I said in my other post, this is nothing new. He has been doing this crap since his rookie year, and it is getting quite old. You have other people thinking he is the next Sr or close to it, which in my opinion he isn't even close to being in Sr's league, so it creates a good debate about the topic. Tony can be funny at times, but he wants to be NASCAR's pet, and NASCAR is refusing, because they aren't like that. He reminds me of some people who go on the Internet and say this and that because they are rookies. Give the rookies a chance instead of putting them down time and time again. It's doing nothing but hurting NASCAR's future. Tony has yet to realise that.

Bold statement 1.... reply: Samething can definitely be said about many drivers more so for 24.

Bold statement 2... reply: 24 has that title, and to say Na$car isn't like that is laughable.

[PenelopePitStop]

Let's face it, we all see what we want to see, and we may interpret statements in different ways.

Not to jump on Montoya bashing again, but there are those who say Stewart took out Montoya. As I've said before, Montoya moved up the track. End of story. Did he do it on purpose, nope.

Tony speaks of retirement, and holy cow! What a ruckus! My opinion is there's no way Tony will retire. He's got much more to accomplish.

I will agree, believe it or not, that Gordon's whining has been toned down, but we'll see what happens the next time somebody wrecks him.

I love Martin, but everyone knows he hates restrictor-plate racing. He made that very clear during interviews after he had been wrecked. Was that whining? No. Complaining? Yes.

The best thing a pi$$ed off driver can do, is walk straight to the trailer and cool off before speaking to the media. I've seen Tony do that many times. Haven't you?

There's also the "happy" heat of the moment. Remember Jr. in Victory Lane? He was fined for using one word ... one!

Let's try something during the Live Chat on Sunday. If/when a driver wrecks and he is interviewed, let's see if they are whining, complaining, or simply stating the facts.

This is racing, ladies and gentlemen, not figure skating!

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Bold statement 1.... reply: Samething can definitely be said about many drivers more so for 24.

Bold statement 2... reply: 24 has that title, and to say Na$car isn't like that is laughable.

1. I have never heard Jeff "whine" about NASCAR, but I have heard some constructive criticism to make the sport better. He's played a huge role in making the COT better.

2. Gordon is far from being NASCAR's pet, lol. If he was, Jeff wouldn't have been penalized at Daytona.

Anyway, this is a Tony Stewart thread, not a Jeff Gordon this and that, so back to Tony.

I think it was in the heat of the moment. Guys like Tony, Gordon, etc are fierce competitors, and if they don't win or get spon, they are gonna be upset about it. Do you ever hear Jeff whine when it isn't in the heat of the moment? No. But, Tony has something to complain about all the time, and instead of trying to get NASCAR to fix it, he bashes NASCAR and bashes Goodyear. That's not a good way to get something fixed.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Mike24

1. I have never heard Jeff "whine" about NASCAR,

What? Are you out of your flippin' mind?

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Let's face it, we all see what we want to see, and we may interpret statements in different ways.

Not to jump on Montoya bashing again, but there are those who say Stewart took out Montoya. As I've said before, Montoya moved up the track. End of story. Did he do it on purpose, nope.

Tony speaks of retirement, and holy cow! What a ruckus! My opinion is there's no way Tony will retire. He's got much more to accomplish.

I will agree, believe it or not, that Gordon's whining has been toned down, but we'll see what happens the next time somebody wrecks him.

I love Martin, but everyone knows he hates restrictor-plate racing. He made that very clear during interviews after he had been wrecked. Was that whining? No. Complaining? Yes.

The best thing a pi$$ed off driver can do, is walk straight to the trailer and cool off before speaking to the media. I've seen Tony do that many times. Haven't you?

There's also the "happy" heat of the moment. Remember Jr. in Victory Lane? He was fined for using one word ... one!

Let's try something during the Live Chat on Sunday. If/when a driver wrecks and he is interviewed, let's see if they are whining, complaining, or simply stating the facts.

This is racing, ladies and gentlemen, not figure skating!

Tony has far from doing that many times. Once Tony climbs out of the car, just like any other fierce competitor in NASCAR, he's gonna be upset, and he dosen't even think about cooling off, he wants to let his frustrations out. One of the positives for Jr is he does cool off after something happens in the heat of the moment, but it also shows his passion for NASCAR, which I have questioned that many times.

Anyway, my response to this post is simply this, and I quote this from an outside friend.

"You may get into arguments about NASCAR and drivers, but it shows your passion for the sport, and that's what counts the most."

"Every fierce competitor that cares about doing well will be upset if he dosen't, it's been like that since sports has been around."

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

What? Are you out of your flippin' mind?


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I may be out of my flippin mind, but atleast it's been constructive criticism to make NASCAR better, instead of bashing it like Tony Stewart does.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Mike24

I may be out of my flippin mind, but atleast it's been constructive criticism to make NASCAR better, instead of bashing it like Tony Stewart does.

Let's agree to disagree and move on ...

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Let's agree to disagree and move on ...

Now I agree with that!

[LSC9901]

Complaining, bashing, whinning ....... those are all a matter of perception. If it's my driver then it is just complaining. If it is the driver I dislike then it becomes whinning.

Now that we all agree to disgree we can finally drop the matter of perception and get back to the TOPIC .... TONY.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Complaining, bashing, whinning ....... those are all a matter of perception. If it's my driver then it is just complaining. If it is the driver I dislike then it becomes whinning.

EXACTLY my point!

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Complaining, bashing, whinning ....... those are all a matter of perception. If it's my driver then it is just complaining. If it is the driver I dislike then it becomes whinning.

Now that we all agree to disgree we can finally drop the matter of perception and get back to the TOPIC .... TONY.

Wait a minute ... I thought you didn't have a "driver"?

[jks812]

They almost all whine to a certain point, just some more than others. And the ones that don't whine complain. Maybe since Tony has a girl and is all serious and all, he's ready to retire and not take a chance anymore with his life. At this point I don't imagine it's a have to for the money. And maybe with the way they are doing everything in Nascar, maybe he's not enjoying it as much. I guess when you look at that way, who could blame him.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Wait a minute ... I thought you didn't have a "driver"?

Did you see a name ???? Merely an example .....

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by jks812

Maybe since Tony has a girl and is all serious and all, he's ready to retire and not take a chance anymore with his life.

Many a good sports person has been ruined by a woman.

[wardfan]

I can't believe you went there!!!!