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Originally Posted by wingkey1

Great, great driver with potential to be known when done as one of the best ever in Cup and as an all around.

Very fragile/volatile personality. While having done well at getting control of some outward flare ups, he remains on edge and in need of above average regular "stroking". Not yet fully able to deal with persistent criticism. When the "boos" became constant (Every time around I believe were close to his words), it exceeded his current ability to adapt and deal.

He and Juan were at it pretty hard for some number of laps. Just before the turn where the significant contact occurred, Tony did a swerve down towards Juan in the straight away before the fateful turn. That pretty much set the stage for the subsequent event. Wasn't either of 'em going to give an inch at that point. Both knew well the potential outcome of the "no back off" attitude in that turn. Both could have done something to avoid it, but the situation and the associated competitive juices were never going to allow it.

Of the two, the post event comments of Tony are the most disappointing - so far.

I would hope for him (Tony) that he continues to take steps to let his exceptional talent as a driver be his predominant voice. It is the loudest and most impressive voice in his arsenal.

Very Well said Wing, my sentiments to a tee

[PenelopePitStop]

Very interesting comments. I didn't see the interview, so I can't comment with any integrity.

But I will say this ... the biggest whiner I've ever seen since I started following NASCAR is without a doubt Rusty Wallace. I wouldn't consider myself a fan, but I do miss him on the track, and it was good to see him win his last race.

Jeffie has taken Rusty's place as far a whining goes. As for Jr., he truly has become a class act over the past few years, and I don't think it has anything to do with negotiations.

Tony has always been a loaded gun. That's just the way he is.

I'm ducking as I hit the Submit button!

[wardfan]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

But I will say this ... the biggest whiner I've ever seen since I started following NASCAR is without a doubt Rusty Wallace. I

you mean rusty waaaaaaaaallice

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

But I will say this ... the biggest whiner I've ever seen since I started following NASCAR is without a doubt Rusty Wallace.

Originally Posted by wardfan

you mean rusty waaaaaaaaallice

Uh ... yup ... that would be him ...

[nascarfan24]

my main problem with tony is he just doesn't get it
he complains about the tires at vegas when goodyear was trying to make it safer
then he always complains about "give and take" when he always takes more than nessisary and never ever gives
so i just think he has an atitude problem and thinks he is the next Dale Sr.
just my opinion...

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by nascarfan24

my main problem with tony is he just doesn't get it
he complains about the tires at vegas when goodyear was trying to make it safer
then he always complains about "give and take" when he always takes more than nessisary and never ever gives
so i just think he has an atitude problem and thinks he is the next Dale Sr.
just my opinion...

Tony Stewart whines all the time. He's been doing this crap since his rookie year, so it's nothing new. He thinks nothing is his fault, when most of the time, it is. He talks about give and take time and time again, yet he dosen't have any patience what so ever. Tony isn't even close of being a comparison to Sr. In fact, no one is. I wish Tony Stewart would shut up and deal with what he has.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by Mike24

Tony Stewart whines all the time. He's been doing this crap since his rookie year, so it's nothing new. He thinks nothing is his fault, when most of the time, it is. He talks about give and take time and time again, yet he dosen't have any patience what so ever. Tony isn't even close of being a comparison to Sr. In fact, no one is. I wish Tony Stewart would shut up and deal with what he has.

Take a deep breath, my friend. Jeffie whines far more than Stewart than every other driver on the track these days. You can't compare Stewart with Sr. or with Jeffie. They are not in the same league ... period.

[LSC9901]

Tony Stewart's short on long-term memory
by Mark Decotis


Impressions of the racing weekend from afar -- the comfort of the green leather recliner:

Juan Pablo Montoya saved NASCAR's bacon on Sunday. Had the take-no-bull rookie yielded to Tony Stewart instead of fighting him for every inch of the Texas racing surface and subsequently spinning him, the race which was shaping up as a bore could have gone into the record books as a colossal bore.
Stewart's two spins, the first that collected Jimmie Johnson's ailing car and the second that collected the contending cars of Kyle Busch and Dale Earnhardt Jr., led to the further drama of Matt Kenseth chasing down Jeff Gordon and Jeff Burton eventually chasing Kenseth down for the victory.
Montoya said after the race that car owner Chip Ganassi is not paying him to run at the back of the pack and he's right.
As for Stewart who complained about Montoya's tactics, his memory obviously is failing because he once engendered the same comments. Stewart has obviously matured -- we'll discuss Kyle Busch's lack of such in a moment -- but Stewart would do well to remember his early days when he regularly dented feelings and fenders.

Speaking of Busch, there's no doubt about his talent and potential but his level of maturity leaves a lot to be desired. This season alone he ripped NASCAR's Car of Tomorrow on live TV after driving it to victory at Bristol and then on Sunday left the track while his team was repairing his race car that Earnhardt -- of all people -- ended up driving over the race's final laps.
Credit Earnhardt with a supreme amount of class and more than a few smarts, deftly taking advantage of the opportunity to get behind the wheel of a car built by the sport's top stable and learning what he could even though it drove, in his words, "like it was wrecked."
And debit Busch a supreme amount of bad judgment -- again. The kid has to learn that in big-league stock car racing the breaks don't always go your way no matter how hard you try. If effort alone was the measurement of success, Robby Gordon would be a multiple-time champion.

Three cheers for Mark Martin. Another race, another top 10. Martin, who is driving in semi-retirement for Ginn Racing has five top-10s and four top-5s in his five races and is 11th in points despite skipping Bristol and Martinsville.
The cagey, old rooster isn't done crowing by any stretch and it sure would be a hoot to see him included in the expanded 12-driver playoff field come New Hampshire on Sept. 16.

And speaking of the playoff, anyone who doesn't consider Burton a contender -- even after only seven of 36 races -- isn't paying attention.
Also, consider this: Burton is one of six drivers in the top 17 in points -- Matt Kenseth, Carl Edwards, Jamie McMurray, Kurt Busch and Greg Biffle being the others -- who were teammates of Martin's at one time.
Think they didn't absorb the avalanche of wisdom that flowed down that mountain every week?

[SpaceCadet]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Take a deep breath, my friend. Jeffie whines far more than Stewart than every other driver on the track these days. You can't compare Stewart with Sr. or with Jeffie. They are not in the same league ... period.

I used to think Gordo was the biggest whiner, even HE said he was a big whiner, but I've seen marked improvement over the last year. Disappointment in his own performance or in losing a race isn't whining to me. I laughed right out loud when Tony said how much it bothered him when everyone booed him. Wow, has he ever listened to the crowd when ANY of the Hendrick's driver's are introduced or win a race? With the exception of Mears, maybe. I haven't heard any of those driver's whine about that. And I'm not even a true HMS fan, but they do have talented drivers, something I have respect for. I don't like seeing any one team or owner dominate. Major boring. Stewart has definately reached a new low in my eyes. And what a shame because his words/antics become the focus instead of his talent. I really want to be a fan, but I just can't do it. So I would agree, they're not in the same league, although I mean that in a different way I think.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Jeffie whines far more than Stewart than every other driver on the track these days.

How dare you speak negatively of Jeffie!

[lilsexy08]

I missed the interview! But I have to defend Tony. I'm only going by what on how he acts sometimes ok, so no one hate me. Yes, he is a GREAT driver not as good as Dale Earnhardt though but close to it. When he was first starting out he had an attitude and not friendly with the media. He has always whined about something but all drivers do that! ALL! He has improved on his attitude but everyone has a bad day! I would compare my attitude to his because I can go off the chain, believe me! LOL! By the way someone commented that the person felt Tony had a hand in Dale Jr wreck-LOOK AT THE REPLAY! HE DIDN'T! I love Dale Jr too. Tony doesn't need to retire I think he would say that in the heat of the moment and do you realize how much pressure these drivers have on their shoulders! Hey, maybe he got into an argument with his girlfriend or better yet broke up with her before the interview! Which would be good! LOL! Just messing! Give the guy a break. Sorry had to defend my man-well I wish he was! LOL!

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by SpaceCadet

I used to think Gordo was the biggest whiner, even HE said he was a big whiner, but I've seen marked improvement over the last year. Disappointment in his own performance or in losing a race isn't whining to me. I laughed right out loud when Tony said how much it bothered him when everyone booed him. Wow, has he ever listened to the crowd when ANY of the Hendrick's driver's are introduced or win a race? With the exception of Mears, maybe. I haven't heard any of those driver's whine about that. And I'm not even a true HMS fan, but they do have talented drivers, something I have respect for. I don't like seeing any one team or owner dominate. Major boring. Stewart has definately reached a new low in my eyes. And what a shame because his words/antics become the focus instead of his talent. I really want to be a fan, but I just can't do it. So I would agree, they're not in the same league, although I mean that in a different way I think.

I agree with the statement in bold. But, some people think otherwise.

Tony thinks he can do whatever he wants. And when he can't do whatever he wants, he's going to whine about it. Like I said in my other post, this is nothing new. He has been doing this crap since his rookie year, and it is getting quite old. You have other people thinking he is the next Sr or close to it, which in my opinion he isn't even close to being in Sr's league, so it creates a good debate about the topic. Tony can be funny at times, but he wants to be NASCAR's pet, and NASCAR is refusing, because they aren't like that. He reminds me of some people who go on the Internet and say this and that because they are rookies. Give the rookies a chance instead of putting them down time and time again. It's doing nothing but hurting NASCAR's future. Tony has yet to realise that.

[oncea3fan]

he did say lastnight at Q's that he didn't mean right now (retiring) he ment at the end of his contract in a couple more years. but I don't recall him blowing it off as heat of the moment.

[jks812]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

he did say lastnight at Q's that he didn't mean right now (retiring) he ment at the end of his contract in a couple more years. but I don't recall him blowing it off as heat of the moment.

I saw that too. Guy even asked if it was said in the heat of the moment and Tony said he meant at the end of his contract, not right now.

[lilsexy08]

I saw it too! He still looks sexy! LOL! Sorry had to throw that in! Have a good weekend everyone!