[jks812]

I have actually gotten to where I like the chase. It's basically close to the same, being consistent. If your consistent the 1st 26 and the last 10, you have a shot at winning. If you;re not consistent, well you couldn't have won the old way either. At least now, nobody knows about half way through the season who will win the championship. That's the part I like.
I thought they had said this year the top 12 would start the chase with the same amount of points with 10 extra points added for each win. Is that right or did I misunderstand that?

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by jks812

I have actually gotten to where I like the chase. It's basically close to the same, being consistent. If your consistent the 1st 26 and the last 10, you have a shot at winning. If you;re not consistent, well you couldn't have won the old way either. At least now, nobody knows about half way through the season who will win the championship. That's the part I like.
I thought they had said this year the top 12 would start the chase with the same amount of points with 10 extra points added for each win. Is that right or did I misunderstand that?

Hmmmmmmmm ... interesting ...

But let's say you are in the Chase but have 10 DNFs during the Chase, and a driver out of the Chase, let's say 13th this year, wins all Chase races. What then?

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Obliviously, the Chase is not popular.

So tell me ... since Mark Martin isn't driving full-time, he'll still be eligible for the Chase won't he?

As you probably know, I'd love to see Mark finally win the Cup, but I think the drivers who are 100% committed to the season deserve more of a shot ... maybe not. I'm torn on this issue.

The term "ringer" comes to mind ...

What do you think?

Far be it for me to think positive about the chase but where in the rules does it say that a driver MUST run 36 races to be eligible for the chase ???? If he has enough points to be in the top 12 then I would ask .... why not ???

[jks812]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Hmmmmmmmm ... interesting ...

But let's say you are in the Chase but have 10 DNFs during the Chase, and a driver out of the Chase, let's say 13th this year, wins all Chase races. What then?

All I can say is if all the top 10 drivers have DNF'S in all the chase races and the 13th place car wins all 10, thats just amazing. And if he had done that good in the other 26 he'd be in the chase.
Like I stated, the reason I like it is because you don't know half way through who's gonna win it. Was it the year before last when it basically came down to the last lap of the last race?
As far as Mark Martin, if he can miss 3 races and still be good and consistent enough to make the top 12, then yes he should be in it.

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Far be it for me to think positive about the chase but where in the rules does it say that a driver MUST run 36 races to be eligible for the chase ???? If he has enough points to be in the top 12 then I would ask .... why not ???

You're right. Nothing in the rules say a driver must run all races to be eligible for the Chase.

If Martin wins the cup this year, I'll be ecstatic. But that's a big "if".

I guess I'll side with you and say, "Why not?"

[PenelopePitStop]

Originally Posted by jks812

All I can say is if all the top 10 drivers have DNF'S in all the chase races and the 13th place car wins all 10, thats just amazing. And if he had done that good in the other 26 he'd be in the chase.
Like I stated, the reason I like it is because you don't know half way through who's gonna win it. Was it the year before last when it basically came down to the last lap of the last race?
As far as Mark Martin, if he can miss 3 races and still be good and consistent enough to make the top 12, then yes he should be in it.

Agreed. If the 13th place driver wins all races during the Chase and the top twelve have DNFs would be amazing. I was just playing devil's advocate.

Ok ... I give ... any driver should be eligible for the Chase regardless of how many races he participates in!

[jks812]

I actually like the chase even better this year since they added the extra points for winning. Now maybe they'll get back to racing to win instead of points racing. I hope.

[titans#1]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Hmmmmmmmm ... interesting ...

But let's say you are in the Chase but have 10 DNFs during the Chase, and a driver out of the Chase, let's say 13th this year, wins all Chase races. What then?

just because you were good at the end of the season doesnt mean much you have to do well all year long.take the titans for an example they didnt do good in the beginning of the season but at the end they won 6 in a row but they still didnt make the playoffs.i like the chase bcuz it gives the drivers a little something to try harder for and the leader in points cant allready have the championship in the bag with 5 races left like harvick did last year in the busch series.but i feel that it should be the top 15 cars in points to make the chase or you'll end up seeing the same drivers in it every year.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by titans#1

just because you were good at the end of the season doesnt mean much you have to do well all year long.take the titans for an example they didnt do good in the beginning of the season but at the end they won 6 in a row but they still didnt make the playoffs.i like the chase bcuz it gives the drivers a little something to try harder for and the leader in points cant allready have the championship in the bag with 5 races left like harvick did last year in the busch series.but i feel that it should be the top 15 cars in points to make the chase or you'll end up seeing the same drivers in it every year.

I love it when posters bring up other sports. It gives me the chance to air a large complaint for me. What other major sport includes all the losing teams when they have the playoffs ? No matter what perspective you take when you look at what a mockery Tony Stewart made of the chase last year, the system looked stupid. Just as you noted the Titans came alive in the end but it wasn't enough to get them into the playoffs. So if NA$CAR wants a playoff that is fine. Just include the eligibile teams and do it after the regular season.

[Lefty Noob]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

So if NA$CAR wants a playoff that is fine. Just include the eligibile teams and do it after the regular season.

Ding ding! We have a winner! This is exactly how NASCAR should do it, if they have to have a playoff. Go top 15 or 20 so there's enough cars on the tracks and just let 'em race. Heck, maybe they could even eliminate a few cars every race, the 1 or 2 who finish in the back. No organization, I don't care if you're stick and ball sports, NASCAR, or whatever, should ever allow people with no chance of winning the title into their playoff system -- too much opportnity for chacanery (sp?).

[Racer Duck]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

What other major sport includes all the losing teams when they have the playoffs ? No matter what perspective you take when you look at what a mockery Tony Stewart made of the chase last year, the system looked stupid. ... So if NA$CAR wants a playoff that is fine. Just include the eligibile teams and do it after the regular season.

Originally Posted by Lefty Noob

Ding ding! We have a winner! This is exactly how NASCAR should do it, if they have to have a playoff. Go top 15 or 20 so there's enough cars on the tracks and just let 'em race.

That's exactly why NA$CAR won't do it .. and exactly why they should. If you have playoffs, then only the teams qualifying for the playoffs can play - too simple a concept for Brian France. Plus, some sponsor will go crying that their car just missed it by "X" so can't they make an exception if they agree to add $$$ to one of the playoff races. And we all know NA$CAR's middle name is $$$...

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Racer Duck

That's exactly why NA$CAR won't do it .. and exactly why they should. If you have playoffs, then only the teams qualifying for the playoffs can play - too simple a concept for Brian France. Plus, some sponsor will go crying that their car just missed it by "X" so can't they make an exception if they agree to add $$$ to one of the playoff races. And we all know NA$CAR's middle name is $$$...

A large degree of sponsor crying could be eliminated simply by having a 36 race regular season and then a playoff season .... oh but wait ... all the other sports do it that way. No reason for the France clan to be normal.

[Mike24]

Originally Posted by jks812

I have actually gotten to where I like the chase. It's basically close to the same, being consistent. If your consistent the 1st 26 and the last 10, you have a shot at winning. If you;re not consistent, well you couldn't have won the old way either. At least now, nobody knows about half way through the season who will win the championship. That's the part I like.
I thought they had said this year the top 12 would start the chase with the same amount of points with 10 extra points added for each win. Is that right or did I misunderstand that?

One of the positive things about the Chase is it gives 12 drivers an equal shot at the championship, and not just like 2 or 3 drivers at the end of the season. I still feel that consistency for 36 races should be awarded instead of consistency for 10 races.

The top 12 will start with 5000 points. For each win they have, they get 10 extra points.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Mike24

One of the positive things about the Chase is it gives 12 drivers an equal shot at the championship, and not just like 2 or 3 drivers at the end of the season. I still feel that consistency for 36 races should be awarded instead of consistency for 10 races.

The top 12 will start with 5000 points. For each win they have, they get 10 extra points.

So in effect there could be ties among the chosen 12 as the chase starts ?

[thunderfoot]

Politics and NASCAR go hand in hand. I have seen so many times the favorite get the rule break. Comes to mind a certain driver of impecable character winning a race and then the tech after the race finds the engine to big. Did he get the win taken away? NO. Points and or money taken away? NO. So this comes down to what the "powers that be" decides. We will alter the end of the season and allow only the top 10 (now 12) to compete for the cup. How many times have we seen a good team have a strong second half of the season and make the run for the championship interesting? How about the times that a champion has won the crown by only a handful of points? Was that not worthy?

Me thinkith thou hath popped the pooch on this one Brian.