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Old 02-27-2007, 05:20 PM
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Pre-Qualifying Inspections

Did some of you notice that Kevin Lepage crashed in qualifying at California after getting no practice in beforehand because the inspectors took too long with the chosen.

Those down in the points wait until there turn and it is denying them of any practice or at the least limited to a few laps

...and I hear Nascar has no plans to change this
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: Pre-Qualifying Inspections

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Did some of you notice that Kevin Lepage crashed in qualifying at California after getting no practice in beforehand because the inspectors took too long with the chosen.

Those down in the points wait until there turn and it is denying them of any practice or at the least limited to a few laps

...and I hear Nascar has no plans to change this
Yea, it's ridiculous. NASCAR needs to find a way to fix this. Everyone deserves an equal amount of practice time. Maybe they should inspect the cars before practice starts?
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:01 PM
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Yea, it's ridiculous. NASCAR needs to find a way to fix this. Everyone deserves an equal amount of practice time. Maybe they should inspect the cars before practice starts?
That would make sense. You never see drivers missing races because pre race inspection took too long. I don't see why practice should be any different.
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:09 PM
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Yea, it's ridiculous. NASCAR needs to find a way to fix this. Everyone deserves an equal amount of practice time. Maybe they should inspect the cars before practice starts?

Finally a good reason for the cup boys to run in the Busch series ... practice, practice, practice
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:15 PM
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Finally a good reason for the cup boys to run in the Busch series ... practice, practice, practice
..dang right LSC, Nascar has even created the bushwacking problem
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:27 PM
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Finally a good reason for the cup boys to run in the Busch series ... practice, practice, practice
But when the COT is used full time, the Busch series won't be useful for practice until 2009 when Busch starts running the COT.
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:32 PM
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But when the COT is used full time, the Busch series won't be useful for practice until 2009 when Busch starts running the COT.
Truthfully my statement was more in jest than anything but it does foolishly validate why they run in the Busch series.
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Old 02-28-2007, 08:26 AM
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Finally a good reason for the cup boys to run in the Busch series ... practice, practice, practice
Gee, LSC, do I detect a little sarcasm there? Gotta love it. Now my stupid question(s) of the day. Why does it take so long? Do they inspect only one car at a time? If so, is this due to a lack of trained inspectors? If yes, could they simply train more of their officials to be inspectors? If no, let me rephrase. Could they pull their heads out of their arses long enough to see this problem could possibly be a relatively simple fix or do they just not give a large rat's hoohaa? Just curious. I don't know too much about the process, but it seems for safety's sake they might wanna change something.
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Pre-Qualifying Inspections

Why not get rid of pre qualifying inspections and make all races impound races. This would do away with drivers missing practice and give the officials from the time a driver climbs out of the car after qualifying until the are stapping in to race to get all of the cars inspected to the satisfaction of NASCAR.

This way if a car is in violation of rules it would be on the team to bring the car into the rules guidlines quickly enough to make the race and if they dont have the time, oh well. Do this and then a post race inspection and it should cut down on the ability for teams to break the rules and increase the ability to catch the cheaters.

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Gee, LSC, do I detect a little sarcasm there? Gotta love it. Now my stupid question(s) of the day. Why does it take so long? Do they inspect only one car at a time? If so, is this due to a lack of trained inspectors? If yes, could they simply train more of their officials to be inspectors? If no, let me rephrase. Could they pull their heads out of their arses long enough to see this problem could possibly be a relatively simple fix or do they just not give a large rat's hoohaa? Just curious. I don't know too much about the process, but it seems for safety's sake they might wanna change something.

If you detect a little sarcasm I apologize. I generally shoot for the whole shabang. Here is one point of view. Not necessarily all mine but a little something to think about. The one car, small time teams may be less apt to cheat (Knaus) because they cannot afford to take that chance of making it into the race on speed and then get booted for being illegal. The same basic premise applies for pre-race inspections. No need to take the chance. With that possible thought in mind maybe NASCAR thinks that inspecting the cars that are for sure getting in is the best route to follow. Since the teams like Cope, Lapage and that group have a much lesser chance of getting why hold up the shoo-ins for the has-beens. Since I have no direct knowledge of how pre and post race inspections work, as far as who gets it done when, I may have just wasted a lot of good keyboard time for naught. Now that last statement was a "little" sarcastic.
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Re: Pre-Qualifying Inspections

is the inspection first come first serve, or is it by pts., I always thought it was first come first serve.
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is the inspection first come first serve, or is it by pts., I always thought it was first come first serve.
It is done by points.
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It is done by points.

There ya go. The underdog gets punished for being the unnderdog.
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There ya go. The underdog gets punished for being the unnderdog.
Yeah, it just kinda begs a better approach. To be set up (as I understand it) where it can cut in to track/practice time -- gotta be a better way.

There's likely more here than I've the information or gray matter to understand, but dang, why not - inspection time for all, one time through only, and start practice immediately after the last entry has tried to pass.

Obviously this has to be limited so inspection does not take three days. Say perhaps present yourself for inspection (be in line) within a defined period or don't complain. If ya fail, ya go to the penalty box. Soon as practice starts (after the last entry is inspected) you can begin your correction and re-inspection process.

I know, I know, there's fault within there somewhere.

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Old 02-28-2007, 07:37 PM
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Re: Pre-Qualifying Inspections

No matter what the resolution might be there will always be someone who is upset. I do like the idea that everyone goes through the inspection process once and then practice starts. If you fail you try during practice. Yet another reason to not push the envelope of the gray areas.

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