[BringBackWilkesboro]

I was reading a little one paragraph sidebar in the local sports section about why Johnny Benson was not penalized for passing Jack Sprague below the Yellow line on the last lap at Daytona. Apparently, according to NASCAR spokesman Owen Kearns "If you can see the checkered flag, anything goes." This is the first I've heard of this stipulation. Is it in the rulebook? If it is, how come nobody knows about it? For the record, I don't think there should have been a penalty anyway. Kvapil did come down towards Benson a little, and at 180 mph, I'm sure you don't want to risk contact. Now that everybody knows about this, does it mean we'll see 7 or 8 wide battles for the win?

[Mike24]

This is the first time I have heard of this rule. That is awesome. I think it should be all out for the win, that's what racing is all about. If the drivers knew about it, we would probably see 8 wide for the win lol. If the drivers can get knowledge about this rule, I think we will have some exciting racing for wins ahead of us.

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by Mike24

This is the first time I have heard of this rule. That is awesome. I think it should be all out for the win, that's what racing is all about. If the drivers knew about it, we would probably see 8 wide for the win lol. If the drivers can get knowledge about this rule, I think we will have some exciting racing for wins ahead of us.

I'm all for it too. The people want excitment, they'll get it. It's just beyond me how this was never mentioned by anyone when the out of bounds rule was announced. I found a little confirmation tidbit on Jayski.

Jayski's® Silly Season Site - NASCAR News/Rules/Rumors

[clutch]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

I found a little confirmation tidbit on Jayski.

Jayski's® Silly Season Site - NASCAR News/Rules/Rumors

I'd seen that earlier and thought it almost lokked like he made a slip up?

I wonder if we'll see some clarification soon

[SpaceCadet]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

Apparently, according to NASCAR spokesman Owen Kearns "If you can see the checkered flag, anything goes." This is the first I've heard of this stipulation. Is it in the rulebook?

I'll betcha just about anything this is one of those "unwritten" rules. There is no way they would put that in an official rule book. I'll even betcha that Mr. Kearns gets an earfull from the powers that be. While I'd love to see some fantastic racing if this were indeed a rule, also think about the total mayhem it may cause. Things get crazy enough now! Wishful thinking, I bet. Aaaahh, one can dream.

[trollmc08]

I hate to burst anyones bubble but if you step back and think just a minuet you may agree that if that is a rule it is written in invisible ink and will be changed before the next plate race. sorry guys.

[oncea3fan]

I still think nasacar needs to put the "reverse rumble strips" in like are on the highway, not bumps but holes that make that noise if you drive to far to the side. if nascar made them 6-8ft. wide no one would run down there on purpose for fear of tire damage, wala no more out of bounds rules.

[LSC9901]

I seem to recall hearing that if you are forced down while passing then you can continue the pass with no penalty. It'll be interesting to hear the story on this. especially with Kearns.

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

I still think nasacar needs to put the "reverse rumble strips" in like are on the highway, not bumps but holes that make that noise if you drive to far to the side. if nascar made them 6-8ft. wide no one would run down there on purpose for fear of tire damage, wala no more out of bounds rules.

But I imagine that would cause multiple wrecks each race. Whether someone jerks the car to get off of it, or simply loses control on it.

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

I still think nasacar needs to put the "reverse rumble strips" in like are on the highway, not bumps but holes that make that noise if you drive to far to the side. if nascar made them 6-8ft. wide no one would run down there on purpose for fear of tire damage, wala no more out of bounds rules.

Holy crap! Rollerball!

[PenelopePitStop]

Oh, I don't know, guys.

"If you can see the checkered flag, anything goes," can get you killed. I doubt this rule exists. Exciting finish? You betcha! But civility should be followed during every lap, including the last one.

Rules are rules, like them or not. As for the "out of bounds rule", I have seen drivers literally pushed down past the yellow line. What about those who do the pushing? If a competitor clearly has the inside line on another, they should be allowed to maintain that spot without being pushed down. Where's the spotter in all of this?

Let's not forget the famous "pass in the grass". While I had heard about it, I never actually saw the footage until a few years ago. Clearly, Sr. was forced into the grass, and was still able to control the car to make the pass. Nobody remembers who pushed him down. They just remember it as cheating by Sr.

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Oh, I don't know, guys.

"If you can see the checkered flag, anything goes," can get you killed. I doubt this rule exists. Exciting finish? You betcha! But civility should be followed during every lap, including the last one.

Rules are rules, like them or not. As for the "out of bounds rule", I have seen drivers literally pushed down past the yellow line. What about those who do the pushing? If a competitor clearly has the inside line on another, they should be allowed to maintain that spot without being pushed down. Where's the spotter in all of this?

Let's not forget the famous "pass in the grass". While I had heard about it, I never actually saw the footage until a few years ago. Clearly, Sr. was forced into the grass, and was still able to control the car to make the pass. Nobody remembers who pushed him down. They just remember it as cheating by Sr.

re: bold above. You can erase your doubt and be sure. The comment was "contextual" relative to the mind of a racer. I promise you when multipe drivers with an opportunity to win come through/out of the last turn of the final lap, see that "checker in hand", they see their dream gourmet meal of all time, with a place setting of one. There is a common visualization at that point --- eating.

[PenelopePitStop]

LOL! Perhaps!

I know if I had a chance to win, it would be "you know whats" to the wall!

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by PenelopePitStop

Oh, I don't know, guys.

"If you can see the checkered flag, anything goes," can get you killed. I doubt this rule exists. Exciting finish? You betcha! But civility should be followed during every lap, including the last one.

Rules are rules, like them or not. As for the "out of bounds rule", I have seen drivers literally pushed down past the yellow line. What about those who do the pushing? If a competitor clearly has the inside line on another, they should be allowed to maintain that spot without being pushed down. Where's the spotter in all of this?

Let's not forget the famous "pass in the grass". While I had heard about it, I never actually saw the footage until a few years ago. Clearly, Sr. was forced into the grass, and was still able to control the car to make the pass. Nobody remembers who pushed him down. They just remember it as cheating by Sr.

I don't see how anybody could see the "pass" in the grass as cheating, considering it wasn't really a pass. It was more of a hang on to the lead in the grass.

[trollmc08]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

I don't see how anybody could see the "pass" in the grass as cheating, considering it wasn't really a pass. It was more of a hang on to the lead in the grass.

You are absolutely right BBW it was only holding his position and refusing to spin out or lose. Never heard it refereed to as cheating before.