[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Knausing gets you a slap on the hand... cheating gets your a$$ handed to you.
Maybe everyone should start Knausing?

OK I get it now. Knausing is cheating but no real penalty. Cheating costs you $, points and maybe disqualification.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

OK I get it now. Knausing is cheating but no real penalty. Cheating costs you $, points and maybe disqualification.

Yeah that's the PC way of puttin it

[LSC9901]

Severe penalties levied against Waltrip Racing

Two MWR members ejected, Waltrip loses 100 points

By Dave Rodman, NASCAR.COM
February 14, 2007
06:54 PM EST

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- NASCAR announced Wednesday that it has confiscated the primary car of the No. 55 Toyota team that competes in the Nextel Cup Series with driver Michael Waltrip, as a result of rule violations found during pre- and post-qualifying inspection for the Daytona 500.
Crew chief Larry (David) Hyder and the team's vice president of competition Bobby Kennedy have been ejected from this week's events at Daytona International Speedway and suspended indefinitely. Hyder also has been fined $100,000.

NASCAR also penalized Waltrip with the loss of 100 driver points. His qualifying time from pole day on Feb. 11 was disallowed.
Team owner Elizabeth (Buffy) Waltrip has been penalized 100 car owner championship points.
The actions taken by NASCAR resulted from violations of 12- 4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing), 12-4-Q (car, car parts components and/or equipment not conforming to NASCAR rules) and 20-15.2C (gasoline must not be blended with alcohols, ethers or other oxygenates).
When asked how long indefinite might be, NASCAR vice president for competition Robin Pemberton said "that's very long. When it decides it wants to, the team can apply for them to be reinstated."
Pemberton added that ejections were not open for appeal the National Stock Car Commission.
NASCAR cleared Waltrip's back-up No. 55 Camry to participate in Wednesday's two practices for Thursday's Gatorade Duel qualifying races, but it never left the garage. Pemberton said at 6:15 p.m. ET the car had not yet cleared inspection.
The confiscated car and the parts related to the violations will be transported to the NASCAR Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C., for further inspection.
NASCAR said the investigation of the confiscated car is ongoing.
When asked how long indefinite might be, Pemberton said "that's very long. When it decides it wants to, the team can apply for them to be reinstated."

Pemberton added that ejections were not open for appeal to the National Stock Car Commission.
NASCAR cleared Waltrip's back-up No. 55 Camry to participate in Wednesday's two practices for Thursday's Gatorade Duel qualifying races, but it never left the garage. Pemberton said at 6:15 p.m. ET the car had not yet cleared inspection.
Scott Eggleston will serve as interim crew chief for the No. 55 Toyota.
What started as an agonizing inspection process for Waltrip on Sunday turned dramatic following his Daytona 500 qualifying run.
Before qualifying began Pemberton said an inspector in NASCAR's engine checking area "caught a substance inside" the car's manifold in its initial pass through inspection.
Pemberton said, "We didn't know what it was," so that manifold was immediately seized and would be shipped to NASCAR's tech center in Concord, N.C., for analysis.
It was nearly 2:30 p.m. ET Sunday and a number of cars had already made their qualifying runs when Waltrip's car cleared engine inspection.
Apparently NASCAR wasn't done acting on what Waltrip and his employees called "oil" in the manifold. The No. 55 team replaced the manifold and Waltrip qualified before NASCAR seized the car. Waltrip ran the 24th-best speed during qualifying, after 11th-place qualifier Matt Kenseth's speed was disallowed.
Now, Waltrip must start his Duel at the rear of the field and race his way up to one of the top-two positions among the cars that do not have a guaranteed spot in order to continue a 20-year streak of starting the 500, which he has won twice.

[Quality88]

I'm gonna try to find the article my friend just showed me in class. They are reporting the unknown substance to be a form of jet fuel.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Quality88

I'm gonna try to find the article my friend just showed me in class. They are reporting the unknown substance to be a form of jet fuel.

I guess his afterburner got torched !!

[Quality88]

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- A second day of scandal hit the Daytona 500 on Wednesday when two-time winner Michael Waltrip's crew chief and team director were thrown out of NASCAR's biggest race for cheating.
The two were suspended indefinitely after an illegal substance was found during inspection for the season-opening race.


Waltrip, docked 100 points, will be allowed to participate in Thursday's races that determine the field for NASCAR's biggest event of the year.
David Hyder, his crew chief, was thrown out of the garage and fined $100,000. Team director Bobby Kennedy also was kicked out.
"This is not the way you want to enter the NASCAR Nextel Cup Series, by any means," said Jim Aust, president of Toyota Racing Development. "But circumstances are what they are, and we'll support NASCAR in any way we can to help to help them find a resolution to the issue."
Five teams have now been caught cheating during preparations for Sunday's race. The crew chiefs for 2003 champion Matt Kenseth, Kasey Kahne, Scott Riggs and Elliott Sadler all were suspended Tuesday.
NASCAR officials would not reveal what they found in Waltrip's intake manifold, but a person with knowledge of the investigation told The Associated Press it was a property contained in jet fuel.
NASCAR competition director Robin Pemberton said only that the substance was not jet fuel itself.
"We're not going to go into any great detail, but it was a foreign substance that we feel should not have been inside the engine, and we'll leave it at that," Pemberton said. "I don't think this is anything that we've seen in the recent past."
The substance was found inside the intake manifold of Waltrip's new Toyota Camry before qualifying for the Daytona 500 on Sunday. NASCAR seized the part and shipped it back to North Carolina for analysis, and spent all day Wednesday pulling parts and pieces from under the hood.
The manifold is a part of the engine that supplies the fuel/air mix to the engine cylinders. Waltrip's team coated the inside of it with an illegal substance that is believed to be a property contained in jet fuel, according to the same official, who requested anonymity because NASCAR had not announced its penalties at the time.
Waltrip's team maintains it was oil.
Adding the substance, described as an oxygenate, would boost the octane in the fuel, thus making the engine run better at higher horsepower.
Pemberton said the substance was discovered when a NASCAR official reached his hand into the manifold to feel for loose parts.
"When he brought his hand out, there was a substance on there that was unlike anything he had ever seen in the inspection line before.
Some rival team members said they thought NASCAR should have taken away more points from Waltrip's team, because officials repeatedly have warned teams they are not supposed to tamper with fuel.
The last penalty NASCAR issued for a fuel-tampering violation was harsher. In May 2000, driver Jeremy Mayfield and team owner Michael Kranefuss each was penalized 151 points for a fuel-related violation found at Talladega Superspeedway.
"When it comes to that area, points need to be equal, at least as bad as it was for Jeremy," said Dale Earnhardt Inc. vice president Richie Gilmore.
Gilmore wasn't surprised, however, that Waltrip still will be allowed to race.
"This day and age, with the sponsors and money that are in the sport, you can see why they didn't send him home," Gilmore said. "But the penalty on the points should have been heavier than 100 points."
Waltrip, a two-time Daytona 500 champion, started his own three-car team this season with Japanese automaker Toyota. The Camrys have struggled with speed since January testing, and Waltrip is not assured a starting spot in the field for Sunday's season-opening race.
"This is a highly competitive field this year ... and I think they went across the line to try to assure them a starting spot in the Daytona 500," Pemberton said.
Waltrip's car failed pre-qualifying inspection. The cars he fields for Dale Jarrett and David Reutimann both passed inspection. Jarrett is assured a spot in Sunday's race because he's a past series champion; Waltrip and Reutimann must race their way in Thursday.
Petty Enterprises executive vice president Robbie Loomis said Waltrip's team should have been penalized 185 points -- the equivalent of a race victory.
"If they won the Daytona 500, it's like they weren't here," Loomis said. "So I think NASCAR has done a good job showing they're not going to take stuff, but it's all checks and balances. I'm sure they'll work it out as the season goes along."
NASCAR spokesman Jim Hunter declined to explain why Waltrip's points penalty wasn't as severe as Mayfield's.
"That was then, and this is now," Hunter said.

[BringBackWilkesboro]

Originally Posted by Quality88

I'm gonna try to find the article my friend just showed me in class. They are reporting the unknown substance to be a form of jet fuel.

When the question of jet fuel was presented at the press conference earlier, it was answered with a simple "no". It was described as some sort of oxygenate.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

When the question of jet fuel was presented at the press conference earlier, it was answered with a simple "no". It was described as some sort of oxygenate.

Yeah, that's in the article. Isn't a part of Jet Fuel though... hmm research time.

[LSC9901]

You know I kind of agree with the idea that more points should have been taken away. Once again it shows how NA$CAR justice is far from equal ... at least to the eyes on this side of the pit box.

[wingkey1]

Originally Posted by BringBackWilkesboro

When the question of jet fuel was presented at the press conference earlier, it was answered with a simple "no". It was described as some sort of oxygenate.

Indeed not jet fuel. Jet fuel is close enough to kerosene to be called --- well --- kerosene.

Put a bit of that in your tank and you'll notice a difference. But not a good one.

Apparently it was indeed an additive used in "jet fuel". Octane increaser / oxygenate seems appropriate based on what has been released.

Be interesting to see just exactly who's brainchild this was. Toyota? Waltrip engine folks? Mikey (really doubt this - but who knows)? Jack Roush?

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by wingkey1

Be interesting to see just exactly who's brainchild this was. Toyota? Waltrip engine folks? Mikey (really doubt this - but who knows)? Jack Roush?

No way it was Mikey's brainchild ... NO WAY !!!

[Quality88]

I've always heard that jet fuel was just high grade diesel. Wikipedia says it's similar.

[Quality88]

My vote is Roush since he hates Yota coming in.

[tbalt]

Why would nascar fine the 19 and 10 for spoiler bolts with holes in them? They used them last year without a problem. Give me a break can a hole in a spoiler bolt actually help with air flow or does it become a deer whistle when spinning out?

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by tbalt

Give me a break can a hole in a spoiler bolt actually help with air flow or does it become a deer whistle when spinning out?

That means it would only be valid for Pocono then