[3wide]

According to Bob Dillner ( yeah I know ) there was a shouting match between the Harvicks and a number of Scott Riggs crewman. The alleged pusher warned the Harvicks that they best shut up and be on their way, apparently they didn't take that bit of advice and got pushed down. I wish I could've seen this on TV, seeing that smartass on the ground would've brought a smile to my face.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by 3wide

According to Bob Dillner ( yeah I know ) there was a shouting match between the Harvicks and a number of Scott Riggs crewman. The alleged pusher warned the Harvicks that they best shut up and be on their way, apparently they didn't take that bit of advice and got pushed down. I wish I could've seen this on TV, seeing that smartass on the ground would've brought a smile to my face.

Maybe Dilner got it as right as he usually does, but it's still a beautiful thought.

[Nevadastars]

From what I understand, Kevin got pushed into Delana which knocked them both down. Then the war wagon ran over Delanas ankle........ouch! but I seen her walking into the hauler, so she can't be too bad off. Also, somewhere in the fiasco a Na$car official got his ankle broken.........double ouch!

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Nevadastars

From what I understand, Kevin got pushed into Delana which knocked them both down. Then the war wagon ran over Delanas ankle........ouch! but I seen her walking into the hauler, so she can't be too bad off. Also, somewhere in the fiasco a Na$car official got his ankle broken.........double ouch!

Did they knock her hat off

[Quality88]

FORT WORTH, Texas -- An unidentified crewman for Scott Riggs' team knocked driver Kevin Harvick, his wife and a NASCAR official to the ground on pit road Sunday, minutes after the Dickies 500 at Texas Motor Speedway.

It was apparently in retaliation for an incident late in the race.

Harvick was close behind Riggs when the latter crashed while running third on lap 332 of the 339-race event. It appeared Harvick's car took the air off the rear deck of Riggs' car and Riggs was unable to maintain control.

Jan McCormick Jr., a public relations representative for Harvick, said Kevin and DeLana Harvick were walking to the infield media center for a postrace interview when two Riggs crewmen made several comments to them.

"They were just talking a little smack, which is normal, and then one of them came up and gave Kevin a push in the back," McCormick said. "Kevin fell into DeLana and she fell into a NASCAR official and all three of them fell to the ground."

He said the men ran away but Mike Dillon, competitive director for Richard Childress Racing, which fields Harvick's car, went after them and took the man who pushed Harvick to the NASCAR hauler.

The Harvicks were not injured, but the NASCAR official, identified as John Sacco, was taken to the infield medical center with what was reported to be a sprained ankle.

"Those guys decided they wanted to take matters into their own hands and trip my wife in front of their pit box," Harvick said. "That's a little bit unnecessary, so we're not too happy about that."

Team officials for Evernham Motorsports, which fields Riggs' car, said there would be no immediate comment on the situation and NASCAR officials said they were investigating the incident.


Hmmm.... seems everything is not well in Na$carland.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by Quality88

Did they knock her hat off

I think the hat is glued to the gals head !!

[oncea3fan]

I don't condone violence, but it would be nice if it knocked her hat off.

I am sure nascar will be hard on this because of actual injury to the offical, delena did say she wasn't hurt, according to reports right after the inncident.
I wouldn't be surprized if that crewman lost his job, where is the 10 in owner points ???

[nascarfan24]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

I don't condone violence, but it would be nice if it knocked her hat off.

I am sure nascar will be hard on this because of actual injury to the offical, delena did say she wasn't hurt, according to reports right after the inncident.
I wouldn't be surprized if that crewman lost his job, where is the 10 in owner points ???

where did those 10 owner points go?
i cant find them
are they under the rug? no....
are they in the fridge? no...
oh wait here they are! i forgot riggs isn't in the chase so it doesn't matter to NASCAR!
oh yeah sorry i forgot!

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by nascarfan24

where did those 10 owner points go?
i cant find them
are they under the rug? no....
are they in the fridge? no...
oh wait here they are! i forgot riggs isn't in the chase so it doesn't matter to NASCAR!
oh yeah sorry i forgot!

I think what oncea3 is drivin at is is the #10 close to 35th in owners points. He may be trying to hangon for next year so he has a guaranteed starting spot, and Harvick didn't help his cause by wreckin him. It still wasn't right for violence(even though it would be cool if it knocked her hat off).

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Quality88

I think what oncea3 is drivin at is is the #10 close to 35th in owners points. He may be trying to hangon for next year so he has a guaranteed starting spot, and Harvick didn't help his cause by wreckin him. It still wasn't right for violence(even though it would be cool if it knocked her hat off).

Riggs is 20th in points, I believe, Q88. I think it is a rotten deal, he gets punted by one of The Chosen and NASCAR seems to be treating it as though he was merely in Harvick's way. Then he will probably lose 50 owner points and 50 driver points because his crew member did what a crew member is supposed to do (in stock car racing, anyway), stand up for his driver!

I usually don't actually get angry at anything in NASCAR, but Harvick's putting Riggs in the wall yesterday made me want to throw something through the picture tube. Then, the lack of anyone questioning Harvick's driving ethics just put icing on the cake. I honestly believe that if one of the Busch's, Robby Gordon, or Mike Bliss would have done what Harvick so blatently did, there would be immediately audences in The Big Rad Trailer with much gashing of teeth and pulling of hair, with "Rough Driving" fines and the ubiquitous
"Actions Detrimental to NASCAR" fines handed out like candy at Halloween.

Hearing that Ken and Barbie got knocked on their collective asses was the only plus in the whole affair.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Riggs is 20th in points, I believe, Q88. I think it is a rotten deal, he gets punted by one of The Chosen and NASCAR seems to be treating it as though he was merely in Harvick's way. Then he will probably lose 50 owner points and 50 driver points because his crew member did what a crew member is supposed to do (in stock car racing, anyway), stand up for his driver!

You make a valid point... crew members should defened their driver

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I honestly believe that if one of the Busch's, Robby Gordon, or Mike Bliss would have done what Harvick so blatently did, there would be immediately audences in The Big Rad Trailer

It's a yellow trailer now... unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

the ubiquitous
"Actions Detrimental to NASCAR" fines handed out like candy at Halloween.

Brian France IS an action detrimental to stock car racing. Corporate Sponsorship IS now an action detrimental to stock car racing. I think it's time Na$car and the France's shut their collective mouths and their greedy minds and let fate take over. If there was less commercials and more driver justice, the true fans would be happy and return, while the newer fans would stay and be on the edge of their seat. Then when true rivalries return they can honestly say "You know when what's gonna happen when so-and-so get together" or "you know those two hate each other".

[oncea3fan]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Riggs is 20th in points, I believe, Q88. I think it is a rotten deal, he gets punted by one of The Chosen and NASCAR seems to be treating it as though he was merely in Harvick's way. Then he will probably lose 50 owner points and 50 driver points because his crew member did what a crew member is supposed to do (in stock car racing, anyway), stand up for his driver!

I usually don't actually get angry at anything in NASCAR, but Harvick's putting Riggs in the wall yesterday made me want to throw something through the picture tube. Then, the lack of anyone questioning Harvick's driving ethics just put icing on the cake. I honestly believe that if one of the Busch's, Robby Gordon, or Mike Bliss would have done what Harvick so blatently did, there would be immediately audences in The Big Rad Trailer with much gashing of teeth and pulling of hair, with "Rough Driving" fines and the ubiquitous
"Actions Detrimental to NASCAR" fines handed out like candy at Halloween.

Hearing that Ken and Barbie got knocked on their collective asses was the only plus in the whole affair.

after seeing the replays, I don't think harvick touch riggs until after riggs lost it if he ever touched him at all.
harvick and johnson both had good runs on riggs, riggs chose to block harvick which I believe the extra turning to cut down probably added to the loose-ness of the car and started the whole ruckus.

JMO.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

after seeing the replays, I don't think harvick touch riggs until after riggs lost it if he ever touched him at all.
harvick and johnson both had good runs on riggs, riggs chose to block harvick which I believe the extra turning to cut down probably added to the loose-ness of the car and started the whole ruckus.

JMO.

By the way Riggs spun, and it looked to me as though Harvick nudged him enough to life his left rear wheel off the track, I still think Riggs got body-checked.

Of course, my opinion is coloured by an unfavourable perception I've had of Kevie since the 2004 Watkins Glen race. I fear he'd have to turn a lot of rock into wine before I could ever really take a genuine liking to the kid.

[WVGrandma4Kasey]

Originally Posted by 3wide

According to Bob Dillner ( yeah I know ) there was a shouting match between the Harvicks and a number of Scott Riggs crewman. The alleged pusher warned the Harvicks that they best shut up and be on their way, apparently they didn't take that bit of advice and got pushed down. I wish I could've seen this on TV, seeing that smartass on the ground would've brought a smile to my face.

It could of made my missable Sunday happy if I had seen that.

[Nevadastars]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

Of course, my opinion is coloured by an unfavourable perception I've had of Kevie since the 2004 Watkins Glen race.

Bob, please refresh my memory on that race. I have had several reasons to dislike Harvick, but an incident at Watkins Glen doesnt seem to stick in my mind.