[Quality88]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

Yet another reason to do away with the restrictor plate racing.

I concur with that. I remember when Sterling slammed Na$car after one of the Firecracker 400's. That was awesome.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Quality88

I concur with that. I remember when Sterling slammed Na$car after one of the Firecracker 400's. That was awesome.

I believe virtually every driver who began driving prior to 1990 and has driven a plate race has complained long and loud about the negative affect the plates have had on racing.

The epitome of stupid was when they ran plates at New Hampshire in...? 2002 (The year Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin were killed)? Boy, am I glad THAT never caught on!

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I believe virtually every driver who began driving prior to 1990 and has driven a plate race has complained long and loud about the negative affect the plates have had on racing.

The epitome of stupid was when they ran plates at New Hampshire in...? 2002 (The year Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin were killed)? Boy, am I glad THAT never caught on!

They both were taken from the sport in 2000. I don't remember them running restrictor plates at NHS. That is stupid. No, that's beyond stupid.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by Quality88

They both were taken from the sport in 2000. I don't remember them running restrictor plates at NHS. That is stupid. No, that's beyond stupid.

I cut the following from Wikipedia, Restrictor Plates:

"The third use came in 2000. Following fatal crashes at the New Hampshire International Speedway during the May Busch Series and July Cup Series races, NASCAR imposed restrictor plates for Cup cars to slow the cars headed towards the tight turns as part of a series of reforms to alleviate stuck throttle problems which were alleged to have caused both fatal crashes. The plates, used for the Whelen Modified Tour events at the track, were used just once at the 2000 New Hampshire 300 event, allowing Jeff Burton to dominate by leading all 300 laps in the ensuing race. Due to the lack of passing (and by most all fan's accounts, an extremely boring race at a track that already produced boring racing) and the addition of an automatic kill switch in the case of a stuck throttle, the use of restrictor plates was discontinued at New Hampshire for the following race for Cup only. (Restrictor plates are still used for the Whelen Modified Tour.)

Rusty Wallace tested a car at Talladega Superspeedway without a restrictor plate in 2005, reaching a top speed of 235 MPH in the backstretch and a one-lap average of 228 MPH. Wallace subsequently described the experience as "out of control". [1]."
This entry is from Wikipedia.

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I cut the following from Wikipedia, Restrictor Plates:

"The third use came in 2000. Following fatal crashes at the New Hampshire International Speedway during the May Busch Series and July Cup Series races, NASCAR imposed restrictor plates for Cup cars to slow the cars headed towards the tight turns as part of a series of reforms to alleviate stuck throttle problems which were alleged to have caused both fatal crashes. The plates, used for the Whelen Modified Tour events at the track, were used just once at the 2000 New Hampshire 300 event, allowing Jeff Burton to dominate by leading all 300 laps in the ensuing race. Due to the lack of passing (and by most all fan's accounts, an extremely boring race at a track that already produced boring racing) and the addition of an automatic kill switch in the case of a stuck throttle, the use of restrictor plates was discontinued at New Hampshire for the following race for Cup only. (Restrictor plates are still used for the Whelen Modified Tour.)

Rusty Wallace tested a car at Talladega Superspeedway without a restrictor plate in 2005, reaching a top speed of 235 MPH in the backstretch and a one-lap average of 228 MPH. Wallace subsequently described the experience as "out of control". [1]."
This entry is from Wikipedia.

Thanks Bob. I missed that NHS race. I remembered Rusty's test. I bet a friend that the cars today would get 230 easy, and I was right.

[simple simon]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

LSC, I believe that you'll find that there are transponders in each car and at each track there are a number of markers (NASCAR refers to them as loops) which record the excat time each car passes that specific marker. I'm not sure of their location but I don't believe they are imbedded in the track itself.

the "transponders" are actually imbedded under the skin of the drivers forearms and they are read via France-sattelite that was placed in geo-sync orbit, originally it was used, to always know the location of Jeff Gordon on and off the track,

The France family is now considering placing miniature cattle prods inside these transponders, so when a driver gets mouthy in the winners circle they can administer a small shock or cyanide, whichever seems more effective





the above has been a Public Service Announcement of the simple simon broadcast company

[Quality88]

Originally Posted by simple simon

the "transponders" are actually imbedded under the skin of the drivers forearms and they are read via France-sattelite that was placed in geo-sync orbit, originally it was used, to always know the location of Jeff Gordon on and off the track,

The France family is now considering placing miniature cattle prods inside these transponders, so when a driver gets mouthy in the winners circle they can administer a small shock or cyanide, whichever seems more effective





the above has been a Public Service Announcement of the simple simon broadcast company

Whoa... I don't know what to say to that

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by simple simon

the "transponders" are actually imbedded under the skin of the drivers forearms and they are read via France-sattelite that was placed in geo-sync orbit, originally it was used, to always know the location of Jeff Gordon on and off the track,

The France family is now considering placing miniature cattle prods inside these transponders, so when a driver gets mouthy in the winners circle they can administer a small shock or cyanide, whichever seems more effective

the above has been a Public Service Announcement of the simple simon broadcast company

OK, Brian. How did you hear about this forum? What purpose will it serve NA$CAR for you to reveal this here-to-for unknown bit of knowledge? I know you think we will discount your entry, but I, for one, believe!!!

[WVGrandma4Kasey]

me too.

[LSC9901]

Originally Posted by simple simon

the "transponders" are actually imbedded under the skin of the drivers forearms and they are read via France-sattelite that was placed in geo-sync orbit, originally it was used, to always know the location of Jeff Gordon on and off the track,

The France family is now considering placing miniature cattle prods inside these transponders, so when a driver gets mouthy in the winners circle they can administer a small shock or cyanide, whichever seems more effective.

the above has been a Public Service Announcement of the simple simon broadcast company

In theory we can laugh about this but remember years ago when Star Trek used to call up to the Enterprise and ask to be beamed up ??? That was nothing more than todays cell phone.

It can happen .... and maybe should !!!

[RaceGirl]

Originally Posted by oncea3fan

hey! mikey just explained that you have to keep up reasonible speed to keep your freeze spot. hense spinning/crashing is not keeping up reasonible speed.

boy they really gave brain a hard time tonite!
but he took it all in good fun.

You are right. You have to be going at "pace" car speed to be counting when the yellow comes out. So while the 8 & 48 were spinning through the grass, the yellow came out. They were not going at pace car speed, so they were put at the tail of the lead lap, because it was the last lap. If it had not been the last lap, they would have started losing laps until they could return to the track. As far as the rest of the field, they are positioned by the scoring loops at the time the caution comes out. NASCAR also goes back to the tapes to review when it is the last lap of the race. That is why it took so long to come out with "Offical" results.

[nascarfan24]

Originally Posted by Bob Tanner

I believe virtually every driver who began driving prior to 1990 and has driven a plate race has complained long and loud about the negative affect the plates have had on racing.

The epitome of stupid was when they ran plates at New Hampshire in...? 2002 (The year Adam Petty and Kenny Irwin were killed)? Boy, am I glad THAT never caught on!

Amen to that brother!