[WVBIG]

I strongly believe Brian Vickers' victory should be stripped because the replay plainly showed he intentionally wrecked his own teammate. His post race behavior shows the same thing. If he isn't stripped of his victory, I'm through with NASCAR & I'm not watching any programs he is on anymore.

[casa]

I don't know if it was on purpose or just out of stupidity or being an overzealous never won a superspeedway race driver. But I do agree that he should not have been given the win. He is not in the chase but took out 2 drivers who are, one of them being his teammate. Then in victory lane he blamed the accident on Dale, Jr. The replay plainly shows what the cause of the wreck was. At the very least he should privately and publicly apologized to Dale, Jr. for blaming him.

[timmer4#8]

I totally agree that Vickers should have his victory stripped and Dale Jr should be given the win. I can not believe how dirty Vickers was to take out his teammate and then blame the wreck on Dale Jr. I am very disappointed with NASCAR officials for letting him get away with this type of behavior. That is not racing! He is not even in the chase for the cup so why would he be such a jerk and take out 2 contenders. I hope Jimmy Johnson has a serious chat with him about how he should act on the track. The win was clearly Dale Jrs, he was clean and was running a great race.

[WVBIG]

When it happened I thought it was just a stupid mistake. But the slow motion replay I saw looked like he moved down slightly into Jimmie. It's probably a good thing he is leaving Hendrick racing since he wrecked his own teammate.

[WVBIG]

I guarantee if Dale jr. had done something like that, his victory would've been stripped in 3 minutes flat.

[dirts_for_me]

I think Vickers should at the very least apologize for what he did. At least his crew chief felt ashamed. He said he was going to apologize to Jr this week. Crew Chief was a class act. I can't say that for the driver.

[Bob Tanner]

Looks as though we have a new "NASCAR Villian." I bet the Brothers Busch will be happy that someone else has taken their turn in the proverbial barrel.

[WVBIG]

Originally Posted by dirts_for_me

I think Vickers should at the very least apologize for what he did. At least his crew chief felt ashamed. He said he was going to apologize to Jr this week. Crew Chief was a class act. I can't say that for the driver.

He should apologize to Dale jr. & Jimmie. I don't know if anyone remembers, but that's how he won the all star thing at Lowes last year or year before. He wrecked Mike Bliss on the last lap.

[Smokestuff]

Hendrick needs to FIRE Brian Vickers!! I will never support any of his sponsors, he is such a loser!!!Junior was robbed! Jimmie should have just stayed there behind Junior and taken 2nd. i think if Jimmie would have just stayed behind Junior, it might not have happened. Hendrick should publicly FIRE Brian and Humiliate him!!! What a bad loser. nascar needs to do SOMETHING about this! I AM JUST SICK SICK SICK!

[LSC9901]

When I watched this I knew immediately that this is the tone that was going to occur on the forums. This was an accident. When JJ pulled down to pass JR he was definitely going to make the pass on him .... with the help of Vickers. Anyone who has been a NASCAR fan knows that restrictor plate racing is a challenge at best. When JJ pulled out of the draft his speed was automatically going to decrease while Vickers' was going to stay the same since he was drafting. When Brian came down behind JJ he was just a bit faster and therefore ran into JJ. At most any other track JJ would have recovered from that tap and JR would have won by a wider margin. If Vickers was signed to a contract for next year by HMS all of the statements about him leaving wouldn't even be close to being valid. As for "GIVING" the victory to JR ... not a chance. You need to cross the finish line first for that to happen.

Since I am a self proclaimed follower of NASCAR and no driver in particular Please don't think that I am defending any one driver. There is no question that we all see the slow motion instant replay from a different point of view. I will admit that I wasn't happy with the finish but only because once again it proves that restrictor plate racing causes more problems than it resolves.

[vinceadams9]

Originally Posted by timmer4#8

I totally agree that Vickers should have his victory stripped and Dale Jr should be given the win. I can not believe how dirty Vickers was to take out his teammate and then blame the wreck on Dale Jr. I am very disappointed with NASCAR officials for letting him get away with this type of behavior. That is not racing! He is not even in the chase for the cup so why would he be such a jerk and take out 2 contenders. I hope Jimmy Johnson has a serious chat with him about how he should act on the track. The win was clearly Dale Jrs, he was clean and was running a great race.

I think if the roles where reversed and Jr hit lets say Truex and it took Truex and Vickers out and Jr won you would not be saying take that win from Jr cause he took his own man out. You would take a sip of cold Budweiser and say thats Racin.

[vinceadams9]

Originally Posted by Smokestuff

Hendrick needs to FIRE Brian Vickers!! I will never support any of his sponsors, he is such a loser!!!Junior was robbed! Jimmie should have just stayed there behind Junior and taken 2nd. i think if Jimmie would have just stayed behind Junior, it might not have happened. Hendrick should publicly FIRE Brian and Humiliate him!!! What a bad loser. nascar needs to do SOMETHING about this! I AM JUST SICK SICK SICK!

Think about it would Jr just sit behind somebody just to finish 2nd . Hell know you know he is gonna try and win the race.

[vinceadams9]

Originally Posted by WVBIG

I guarantee if Dale jr. had done something like that, his victory would've been stripped in 3 minutes flat.

I think you are very wrong on this subject, even the announcers said it is just a racin deal.

[vinceadams9]

Originally Posted by casa

I don't know if it was on purpose or just out of stupidity or being an overzealous never won a superspeedway race driver. But I do agree that he should not have been given the win. He is not in the chase but took out 2 drivers who are, one of them being his teammate. Then in victory lane he blamed the accident on Dale, Jr. The replay plainly shows what the cause of the wreck was. At the very least he should privately and publicly apologized to Dale, Jr. for blaming him.

Yes he may have hit JJ but was gonna draft with him to go by Jr and when you say he's not even in the chase that dont matter you are there to win not just ride around.

[Bob Tanner]

Originally Posted by LSC9901

When I watched this I knew immediately that this is the tone that was going to occur on the forums. This was an accident. When JJ pulled down to pass JR he was definitely going to make the pass on him .... with the help of Vickers. Anyone who has been a NASCAR fan knows that restrictor plate racing is a challenge at best. When JJ pulled out of the draft his speed was automatically going to decrease while Vickers' was going to stay the same since he was drafting. When Brian came down behind JJ he was just a bit faster and therefore ran into JJ. At most any other track JJ would have recovered from that tap and JR would have won by a wider margin. If Vickers was signed to a contract for next year by HMS all of the statements about him leaving wouldn't even be close to being valid. As for "GIVING" the victory to JR ... not a chance. You need to cross the finish line first for that to happen.

Since I am a self proclaimed follower of NASCAR and no driver in particular Please don't think that I am defending any one driver. There is no question that we all see the slow motion instant replay from a different point of view. I will admit that I wasn't happy with the finish but only because once again it proves that restrictor plate racing causes more problems than it resolves.

Once more we concur, LSC. An alternative theory would be my "I was just bump-drafting him " possibity.

Your statement about the restrictor plates (I loved NASCAR's we ARE NOT going to change the plate rules! Oops! Yes we are. Gotcha!") causing as many problems as they solve is right on. They have increased the safety of the people in the stands at the expense of increasing the danger to the drivers. Much like another well known entity I won't mention in this forum, NASCAR never saw a problem it couldn't make worse.